Narcolepsy in rem sleep
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narcolepsy
The formal way of diagnosing narcolepsy is to undergo a multiple sleep latency test (MSLT) which is a daytime study after an overnight sleep study. If you're REM sleep deprived in general, you'll have what's called REM rebound, where you go into REM much quicker than normal. You may want to mention your symptoms the next time you meet with your sleep doctor.
First of all, I'm sorry the doctor who ordered your testing didn't go more in depth in explaining the results to you. The information I'm going to give you here is based strictly upon the diagnostic criteria for different conditions; doctors use a combination of test results and diagnostic guidelines AND clinical expertise to reach diagnosis and treatment decisions, so there is no guarantee that this information pertains to your case in particular.
i wake up constantly at night remember my dreams to every detail every time i go to sleep i immediatly dream sumtimes i had sleep paralysis about 6 times in the past year i hallucinate things right before i fall asleep sumtimes after i wake up no matter how much sleep i get im constantly exhausted i take a nap mid afternoon if i dont im more tired n fall asleep dreamin no matter how hard i fight it i also have been getting very hostile out of nowhere over nothing is this narcolepsy or sumthing e
I had 156 arousals, 110 spontaneous, the rest due to limb movement. I also spent most of my sleep time in sleep stages 1 and 2, whith REM episodes scattered randomly. I had no time in stage 3, and when I had REM sleep it was from wake to REM with no progression through the other cycles. I had two episodes of central sleep apnea, and my sats dropped to 83%, but otherwide my HR was 35-75, with avaerage O2 sats of 97% and above.
I was diagnosed with CFIDS in 1994. Narcolepsy in 2005. I get basically no stage 4 or Rem sleep at night. Its no wonder why our mind and muscles can't heal themselves. I can go into almost instant dreaming during day (MSLT naps). I haven't been able to get anyone to help me figure out how to correct my sleep cycle. If you get any ideas, let me know. (I am on meds to help sleep and keep me awake at the right times, but it hasn't helped the sleep cycles.
It takes a normal person about 90 minutes for them to reach the REM stage of sleep, but narcolepsy can be found if someone falls into the REM stage almost as soon as they fall asleep (like for me, it took me only 6 minutes to reach REM!) This is how they find out if you have narcolepsy or not.
It's really a terrible thing to be diagnosed with this, since there really is no cure for it, so I really hope you find out it is something else that can be easily treated instead of narcolepsy!
Sleep paralysis is the symptom of a sleep disorder called Narcolepsy. This sleep disorder is characterized by excessive day time sleepiness, sleep paralysis, cataplexy where the person has episodes of loss of muscle function while awake, hypnogogic hallucinations and automatic behavior.
It is usually diagnosed by sleep onset REM sleep (SOREMs), which is dream sleep in multiple episodes of MSLT (multiple sleep latency tests).
I have suffered from sleep disroders my whole life. When I was 10 years old I had a type of sleep apnea called Hypopnea. Every night would result in me seeing spiders and snakes and getting out of bed screaming and running away out of terror. After months of this happening I went to a sleep Dr and had a sleeo study done, they informed me of what I had and that my tonsils were blocking my airways.
You are in luck! REM sleep is the sleep subject I have the most expertise in! This is because I have a disease that revolves around disordered REM sleep (narcolepsy with cataplexy).
So, first off, you may find it reassuring to know that REM sleep, contrary to popular misconception, is not "deep sleep." Deep sleep is actually NREM stages III and IV.
Someone with narcolepsy will experience the characteristics of REM sleep (vivid dreams and muscle paralysis) at the beginning of sleep, even if that sleep is during the day.
It can take YEARS if not decades to diagnose, if you don't have Cataplexy.
Could also be that you aren't quite awake yet. Definatly talk with your doc though. Sorry to put all this in here. I am kinda fascinated with it right now because they think I have it.....
That is how I got dx with Narcolepsy. I get no stage 4 sleep and very little REM at night. However, I go into almost immediate REM during time I fall asleep during the day.
Do you also know if people with this disorder have periods of sleep walking. I have walked in my sleep from time to time since I was a child but it seems to have suddenly multiplied in the last few years. I am now 56 and have had some very life changing events in my life during these last 3-4 years. I am wondering if these traumatic events could have caused the sleep walking to increase. I stay exhausted.
Physiologically, sleep paralysis is closely related to REM atonia, the paralysis that occurs as a natural part of REM (rapid eye movement) sleep. Sleep paralysis occurs either when falling asleep, or when awakening. When it occurs upon falling asleep, the person remains aware while the body shuts down for REM sleep, and it is called hypnagogic or predormital sleep paralysis.
My last sleep study showed 2.% TST in stage 1, 61.5 % TST in stage 2, 35.3 in stage 3, 0% in stage 4 and 1.1 in REM. Previous studies have never shown any stage 4 sleep and up to 86% in stage 2. I know my am cortisol was 3.6ug/dl (N=8.7-22.4) but the doctors didn't do anything with that. My questions are: 1. Where should I go for help to figure out how to wake up more refreshed? 2. How can I help heal my chronic pain issues if I do not have stage 4 sleep and very little REM sleep? 3.
Certain sleep disorders like obstructive sleep apnea can cause disturbed sleep and hence the need to sleep more. And others like narcolepsy can cause excessive sleepiness per say.
If it persists or is troublesome consult your doctor for assessment.
Hope this helped and do keep us posted.
The associated symptoms with the following disorder are confusional wakefulness, sleep paralysis, nightmares and night terrors. This can occur in any sleep stage (REM and non-REM stage).
To rule out parasomnias you need to undergo Polysomnyography and sleep analysis. You need to take out time for further evaluation. Sleep with light on. Short term benzodiazepine against prescription will help you. I suggest you to consult physician or sleep specialist. Take care and regards.
I recently had a sleep study done and it showed no apnea, no REM and on average waking up 18 times an hour. I was but on Nuvigil 150mg and have been taking for 4 days but I don't want to take it anymore for several reasons. One it only lasts about 6 hrs and then I hit a wall. The second reason is I just feel creepy inside and my hrt rate on average is up 15-20 bpm. I just called the Doc to tell them about it and they are supposed to call back.
The MSLT was abnormal showing hypersomnolence but no REM sleep so no narcolepsy diagnosis. Setting ranged from 9 to 11 cm H20 on his CPAP - a ResMed EPR Elite II.
3 years of trying every mask and chin strap and with another PES sleep study to verify pressure, we finally gave up on CPAP and he moved to a TAP appliance. My son has very sensitive skin and tried his best to adjust. The TAP appliance has been a better fit for him.
I have narcolepsy and my sleep paralysis is getting better..My sleep study showed that I do not go into REM sleep very long..and when I get hit with intense sleepiness, I start dreaming as I am closing my eyes. When you dream with eyes open/ awareness, you have a hard time distinguishing reality from dreams.
I also have RLS, Involuntary Limb movement, and it is pretty much ruining my life. I was put on all the typical drugs and slept 24 hours..I could not wake up.
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