Suboxone vs hydrocodone

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Can anyone tell me the difference between tylenol 3 and hydrocodone, I understand the hydrocodone is a synthetic of codeine, but as far a strength of tylenol 3 vs one 5mg vicodin? What is the addiction factor, what is worse codeine or hydrocodone? Just curious..
I do think I feel better on sub emotionally vs. norco. With norco; i am preoccupied with when i am taking my next dose or how many i have/can take in a day, etc.... And are subs healthier per se than norco??? I just want to be healthy again. This pic was me before the pain, before the norco. I look at this pic and see a happy shining soul, now I look in the mirror and I see a worried, guilty stressed out fatty.
I am interested in detoxing with Suboxone. Can anyone tell me how much money I will need to do this? I have been taking way to much for a short period of time but I know my W/W will be the worst I've ever felt before. I finished 400 Tramadol in about 30 days and have 200 left. Now they just make me feel normal. Sick also. There is no high left or me. I just want out of this ****. Thanks for your help.
The only reason why Tramadol (Ultracet, Ultram, etc.) is not considered a narcotic is because at the moment it is unscheduled in the USA and pretty much everywhere else. It is fairly new being researched and first put on the market in the 90's.
Suboxone contains buprenorphine, an opiate that is a partial agonist at the receptor and that has been around for over 30 years. If you read any 'goodman and gilman' (the bible of pharmacology) you will read that 'buprenorphine is less addictive than other opiates because of the partial agonist effects'. But for anyone addicted to opiates, even codeine is very addictive!
And then if you are unsuccessful call a doctor for Suboxone. Suboxone is also an opiate so it also must be tapered and some people do have withdrawals with it. You may be able to just do this once by getting of the oxy by tapering, instead of starting another drug that you have to taper to get off of.. You see what I am saying?
I am scared of the damage being done to my liver but because of a botched surgery five yrs ago I need opiates to stabilize my GI tract (long story) Problem is, I've developed musculo-skeletal pain issues that neccessitate the hydrocodone vs. just straight codeine. There is much reference to vitamins and supplements to take to help with w/d, but no specifics. Can anyone give a list of these?
I've been taking 10mg hydrocodone for 2 years now for chronic neck/back pain. I'm trying to taper down and quit taking them completely in order to attempt a 30 day drug holiday. Ive been taking 3 or 4 daily. When I have run out in the past, the withdrawals have been horrible. My husband is helping me taper off, but I think I need additional help. What should I do? I know a lot of people will say 3 or 4 a day isn't much, but I've been on them for a long time and thats the main problem.
Hey...would love to hear from some of you who have been on suboxone maintenance & your thoughts & feelings about it. I am currently on it for a oxycodone addiction. It is really helping me, but I sometimes feel as though I am replacing one drug for another, although I feel I can function in the world without constantly thinking about pills, swallowing them, worrying when I'm going to run out & how to get my next stash. What are some of your experiences good or bad on suboxone?
I'm gonna be honest with you even at the 150mg a day hydrocodone I wouldn't suggest going to suboxone and I say that because suboxone is SO MUCH STRONGER than hydrocodone. No doubt suboxone saved my life but I was also taking 450-600 mg of oxy a day or 250-350 mg opana a day when I went on it. Switching from hydrocodone to suboxone in my personal opinion is only switching to a stronger drug.
I am on suboxone and Suboxone w/ds are worse than hydrocodone w/ds. So if you want to use the suboxone to stop the w/d's make a taper plan (that depends on how much you took) exsample 1mg every other day for a week, than 1mg every 3 days and so forth and so on. Be careful with the suboxone it can be very hard to get off of.
And I've heard a lot of mad things about methadone, and good things about suboxone. I have goverment insurance and I'm really having a hard time tryin to find a doctor that will take my insurance it's really expensive.
I know someone who is taking suboxone and swears by it. Also though, it's 2nd or 3rd time quitting for him. Each time he had the suboxone. I'm also dependant on Cymbalta ( anti-depressant) I started taking this to combat the withdrawl symptoms. Is suboxone going to be another dependancy? Do you have to take it forever?
I am not asking for medical advice, I am looking for more experience advice. I also don't know how the suboxone works vs the methadone. I know the methadone needs to leave your system before you take the suboxone. Is it even worth it for him to take the suboxone or should he just muscle through it?
I'm new to this site, found it while trying to find help for opiate withdrawals. I've been taking hydrocodone for about 2 years. I took my last one yesterday evening (more because I'm out rather than a noble decision on my part to quit.... although I do want to quit). The withdrawals are horrible, and I am at work going absolutely crazy. I tried to call in sick, but somehow here I am. I can get my medicine refilled this thursday... I'm trying to decide what to do.
You will still suffer some withdrawal, but it will be much less vs. dropping off at the higher dose. Typically with suboxone it will take a couple of weeks before you are back to your old self. Read the Thomas Recipe and use that, it will help. Best of luck.
in my opinion is certain criteria for one considering suboxone..first of all suboxone stays in your system alot longer than hydros..are you considering suboxone..your friend..
I know the ER here in my town would never even think of giving a patient Percocet, the strongest thing they would send you home with would be an RX for 10 mg hydrocodone. Good Luck friend. Please keep posting and if you do not get the replies you need by mid morning, please post again.
I have seen any in the last week considering suboxone .We have many that are still taking it .I think it would really helpful for many posters trying to research whether it a good chioce for them to hear what people that are now off it have to say . Did you take it short term or long term? How long if at all did you have WD going off it?.If you had to do it all over would you make the same choice?
My question is, did you guys experience any weight fluctuations while on hydrocodone? I have always struggled to keep weight on, but noticed I lost weight I really couldn't stand to lose while on these pills. I'm 6'6", 185 lbs normally, which is still a bit on the thin side, but after a 10 month bender I am down to around 172, which is way too thin for my height. What has been your experiences with weight loss/gain while taking these pills?
By now almost every opiate addict has heard of Suboxone, the relatively new medication for opiate dependence. I initially had mixed feelings about Suboxone, my opinion likely influenced by my own experiences as an addict in traditional recovery. But my opinion has changed over the past two years, because of what I have seen and heard while treating well over 100 patients with buprenorphine in my clinical practice.
was able to take me off all that **** after my surgury was done with the drugs called subutex for induction and suboxone for maintenace. Not all doctors have the priveledge to subscribe suboxone detox and treatment, None of the medication is cheap except the norco. I just received a drug summary from my insurance co that they have spent as of 9/2007 just under $10,000.00. Buy the end of the year it be about $12,600.00. A months worth of suboxone is $755.00.
I have done both the Methadone and Suboxone routines long term (7 years methadone, 2 years Suboxone) for maintenance treatment, but not for pain. I can only give you my experiences for both personally. Methadone- While it can be great for pain, You will indeed build a tolerance to it like any other opiate. I was induced at the standard 30mgs and by the time I was at my peak I was at 700mgs daily. And this was for maintenance, not pain control.
Cattalina is 100% right. Without getting into the good vs. evil dabate re suboxone - its imperative to educate yourself on it. You cannot learn enough about this, or any medicine you put in your body for that matter. Familiarize yourself with it and make a plan, set some goals and stick with them. Good luck - dont hesitate to post more - lots of current and prior sub users here..
and not strong enough to consider for suboxone (spelling?) therapy to get off . He told me it was as mild if not milder than Tylenol 3. So, my question is, how can this "innocent, good little drug" have withdrawals compared to Meth? Can someone explain the differences to the withdrawals. I read alittle on opiate withdrawal (codeine, perks, etc.) that you have flu like symptoms..chills, headache, sleeplessness... With tramadol, atleast for me..
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