Oxycodone vs hydrocodone euphoria

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Some of you may have seen the recent news surrounding hydrocodone, but I wanted to share it here for those of you who haven't as it’s an important issue that could potentially affect millions of people. To give you a brief overview, an advisory panel to the FDA has recommended tighter restrictions on hydrocodone-containing drugs, which would essentially classify them among the most dangerous prescription medications available to patients.
They don't give me the same high as HC or Vicodin, but I have heard they are still addictive. Any advice?
I have been taking hydrocodone for about 2 1/2 years at an increasing rate, ending up with the 7.5 strength and about 18-20 per day. I do have severe arthitis pain and am a 51 year old woman. I have to cut down and recently cut down to 10 a day and have experienced physical and emotional withdrawal symptoms. I have some clonidine and don't know how much to take for withdrawal. What is the recommended dosage.
This includes drugs such as tramadol (Ultracet and Ultram) codeine (Tylenol #3, #4), Darvocet, Hydrocodone (Vicodin, Norco, Lortab and derivatives), Oxycodone (Endocet, Percocet, Oxycontin), Morphine, Demerol. Fentanyl, and Dilaudud. There are many other opiates not listed, so if you don’t see it listed, you can still use these suggestions if it’s an opiate based addiction. None of these apply to benzodiazepine based addictions. These addictions should never be dealt with by going cold turkey.
Also, if your body does better with hydrocodone (like in Norco), there's a new long-acting formulation that is based on this drug - Zohydro. You should also know -- I'm a Broncos fan and we do not like the bad-boy Raiders. Better step softly here!
Oxycodone is more powerful than Hydrocodone. Oxycontin is a sustained release form of Oxycodone and takes a long time to clear out of your body, thus probably a lot more uncomfortable to discontinue extended periods of use. Methadone and Suboxone are both opioids used to withdraw from euphoria inducing opiates. Methadone is often a life long solution to addiction, and carries the addiction stigma in requiring daily clinic visits for dosing.
There is also Opana ER (the long acting form) that is prescribed either with oxycodone or hydrocodone for breakthrough pain. I was on that for about 6 months, and had no trouble coming off that and onto hydrocodone. Good luck to you. I'm still struggling with pain, and had to change my career focus, and drop my hours down to virtually nothing. To be honest, that's what helped more than anything. I hope something helps you. Codeine is a poor choice for chronic pain management.
PEOPLE, addiction is a psychological behavior where people consume the narcotic after the illness/injury has healed and pain has subsided. Addicts take these meds for the euphoria they produce and not for the control of acute or chronic pain. NOW, narcotic dependence, meaning someone takes the narcotic for pain in order to live some semblance of a normal life with limited pain, will cause withdrawl symptoms if the narcotic is either drastically reduced at one time or stopped all together.
a great thing about suboxone is that it is used as a treatment aid for opiate addicts, it last for a two days, the average half-life is 37hrs, which is hella long, and it gets rid of any physical wd's from any other opaite and also haults the cravings for hydroc or wahtever opiate...
, but for some users (especially new ones) it can still create a euphoria similiar to codine. It has a weak affinity for MU receptors, making it a fairly weak pain killer. However, it also has a longer duration of effect then some opoid medications lasting up to 8 hours per dose. It is one of the most over prescribed medications on the market today. This is partially because its not scheduled, giving doctors less liability.
To JB, In response to your statement that you think its how much you take rather than what you take, I would disagree. Oxycodone is MUCH more addictive than Hydrocodone or Codiene, and Morphine is orders of magnitude more addicting than Oxycodone. By more addicting, I would suggest that the desire to acquire as well as ability to quit is what is most insidiously compounded in the more powerful opiates. Also, the time it takes your body to become chemically dependant is less.
I have a degree in chemistry and I've been studying the chemical structure of oxycodone vs hydrocodone; since I tried going BACK to Hydro and it didn't do a thing to me..it was like eating sugar pills. The ONLY difference between the two is that on C-14 (the 14th Carbon atom) with Hydrocodone, the C is bonded to a Hydrogen atom, and with oxycodone, it is bonded to a hydroxyl group (OH). Wow. I mean...Wow.
I respect and have gratitude for all advice and warnings about suboxone use. I have done a lot more research and clarified/verified your observations & statements. I will try not to be Artie Lange and call it the 'miracle drug' and push people towards long-term use. I'll definitely be more careful about that. Though I jumped on sub due to withdraws from oxy, I have only have the withdraws due to wishing to stop the cycle of craziness that I cannot control with oxy.
This includes drugs such as tramadol (Ultracet and Ultram) codeine (Tylenol #3, #4), Darvocet, Hydrocodone (Vicodin, Norco, Lortab and derivatives), Oxycodone (Endocet, Percocet, Oxycontin), Morphine, Demerol. Fentanyl, and Dilaudud. There are many other opiates not listed, so if you don’t see it listed, you can still use these suggestions if it’s an opiate based addiction. None of these apply to benzodiazepine based addictions. These addictions should never be dealt with by going cold turkey.
I have never heard of darkening around the eyes being caused by hydrocodone and Tylenol (Vicodin) but I know that taking a narcotic can disturb your normal sleep stages which may make you look tired and have the dark circles and red eyes. To be on the safe side, have another person look at your eyes closely and also check under your tongue.
Analgesia compared to morphine without as much sedative effects that morphine causes. And does not produce addiction on the same scale as morphine,hydrocodone,oxycodone,codiene and others. If all that is written about buprenorphine is true and accurate, it will be the pain medicine of the FUTURE. Pain medicine of the future will probably produce an antidepressant effect,produce analgesia,cause no sedation or nausea, and be non-addictive. Wow! What a concept. Best of Luck to you JOE, Dan...
Just had one more comment for ya: back when my back pain was at its worst, I was looking at things like surgery, because I couldn't find a doc who would give me any kind of pain meds, or any kind of pain relief. I was so desperate I would've gotten what would've turned out to be an unnecessary back surgery out of that desperation.
That is something many of us have experienced first hand, and is one of the many wonderful(NOT) side effects of oxycodone, and opiates in general. Hell i remember if someone even looked at me funny at the grocery store, i was ready to clobber them; and truth is they were probably just going to say hi. As far as other side effects, well of course there is the liver which you mentioned and the kidneys.
When one stops taking their anticholinesterase ie oxycodone,codeine,heroin,morphine,hydrocodone.oxymorphone(tried 3,6-diacetyl,14hydroxymorphine lately,good god what a RUSH) ad nauseum,then the Acetylcholine that has ACCUMULATED is "Explosivley"released causing a relative Dopamine Deficiency.
It doesnt supposedly give much of a euphoria so not as likely to be abused although it has been. It is new and expensive if your insurance won't cover it (which i doubt it will). I just was given bextra which is a new time released anti-inflammatory (doesnt bother g i tract) approved for use wiht severe arthritis. Might be a good option for u. Best wishes to your struggle and hope for yur recovery!
for pain? Hydrocodone, you have come to the right place....Loving your family has nothing to do with addiction, it is a disease, one recognized by the AMA,what you are feeling when not using the Lorcet is classic withdrawal symptoms,,very uncomfortable but not life threatening,,everyone is different re: the duration of withdrawal, usually 3 to 5 days for the intial withdrawls but then there is depression and all the things that come with no longer using narcotics...
I was taking them {chewing} before for the euphoric feeling, but also have foot and back pain. By swallowing them whole I don't get the euphoria, but still get some energy and no pain. I miss the euphoria, but I am feeling 90% better mentally. I am alot more alert and can actually enjoy people. There is some withdrawl {sweating while sleeping} but so far hasn't been too bad.
I am in back pain constantly and I get oxycodone from the Dr. I am getting some today and I want to tell him so bad that I am an addict and please help me, give me something to cure this disease, I don't want to hurt or feel the pain, but worst of all I don't want to be dependent..
I am a regular NA attendant.There is a criteria to follow if you have a substance abuse problem and need to attend a self help 12 step program.If you have a problem with alcohol only or if alcohol is you drug of choice you should attend AA.If you have a problem with narcotics only ,or if your first choice is something other than alcohol, then NA is the only place for you.
Hope I got your handle right. I think I do remember your posting before. When you think about it in hindsight, are you really surprised that you pushed the envelope to the point of getting caught?? We're ADDICTS, afterall. But I remember going throught the same wrestling match in my head:" WHY am I doing this? I'm going to get caught!! WHY don't I stop when I know I'm going to lose everything?? WHEN will this stop??
Correction or clarification rather. I said it all comes down to pain vs. addiction.......What I meant by addiction is dependence from a pain pt's stance. Do you know the difference? There is a difference. I'm getting "addiction" in the typical sense, from your situation. If someone is in constant pain, and there quality of life goes down, then no choice needs to be made. If the chronic painer can find an educated phys., pain medication is clearly the route one must take.
vicki, which drug are you referring to that should've been initially controlled? Wow, didn't expect so many responses. Interesting to see different people's perspectives on this issue. Someone raised the issue of alcohol and that "no one shoved it down your throat." Fair point. But, honestly, 7 years ago I didn't even KNOW WHAT Oxycodone or Hydrocodone was!! I was prescribed for pain I was experiencing -- I slowly became hooked.
I need to preempt this with you knowing that my panic disorder, GAD, and endometriosis pain disease I treated with Dr. prescribed Klonopin, Xanax, and Oxycodone plus every freaking anti-depressive known to man ever since I was 19. Im 40 now. . Since the anit-s didn't do much for me, I basically stuck to the benzos which worked and the opiates which was like a gift from above, it helped oh so much but not totally, and than I found heroin. THE ultimate opiate.
I am not afraid of death, an often look forward to it. This is whole situation is disturbing...Its like choosing the least of two evils...pain vs. addiction. I too, get upset when this medication runs low, but only because it enables me to operate w/o pain. Its nice. I think the most difficult thing to deal w/ when u have an injury is this: Everyone around you, has forgotten what you went through and expects you to go on like you have no problems. For ex.
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