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Avatar f tn I had surgery for <span style = '<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>back</span>ground-color: #dae8f4'>knee</span> replacement Dec 2007. I've had not stop pain since background-color: #dae8f4'>the surgery. I've been to background-color: #dae8f4'>my doctor a number of times, he told me that background-color: #dae8f4'>the problem background-color: #dae8f4'>is with scar tbackground-color: #dae8f4'>issue background-color: #dae8f4'>and that he can do anobackground-color: #dae8f4'>ther surgery to remove background-color: #dae8f4'>the scar tbackground-color: #dae8f4'>issue. He also said it could grow back again. So I opted not to have background-color: #dae8f4'>the surgery. But background-color: #dae8f4'>the pain background-color: #dae8f4'>has increased background-color: #dae8f4'>and more troubling background-color: #dae8f4'>my leg background-color: #dae8f4'>is beginning to bow. Most of background-color: #dae8f4'>the pain background-color: #dae8f4'>is not in background-color: #dae8f4'>the background-color: #dae8f4'>knee but in background-color: #dae8f4'>the bone below background-color: #dae8f4'>the background-color: #dae8f4'>knee.
Avatar m tn I am having a scope of background-color: #dae8f4'>my <span style = '<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>back</span>ground-color: #dae8f4'>knee</span> replacement to clean of around background-color: #dae8f4'>the components background-color: #dae8f4'>and do cultures to see if background-color: #dae8f4'>there background-color: #dae8f4'>is an infection, I have background-color: #dae8f4'>has x-rays two bone scans background-color: #dae8f4'>and a biopsy of background-color: #dae8f4'>the background-color: #dae8f4'>fluid in background-color: #dae8f4'>my background-color: #dae8f4'>knee background-color: #dae8f4'>and background-color: #dae8f4'>the Dr. stills background-color: #dae8f4'>is not sure if I have a infection background-color: #dae8f4'>is background-color: #dae8f4'>there not a way to tell if I have a infection without surgery?
Avatar m tn background-color: #dae8f4'>now, I did have torn cartilage surgery Aug1972 in background-color: #dae8f4'>the right <span style = '<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>back</span>ground-color: #dae8f4'>knee</span>. Two weeks after <span style = '<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>back</span>ground-color: #dae8f4'>knee</span> replacement I started background-color: #dae8f4'>therapy, background-color: #dae8f4'>and background-color: #dae8f4'>the first day background-color: #dae8f4'>the guy put me into a sit down cpm with background-color: #dae8f4'>the setting at 80% saying we have to get results immediately, that's what background-color: #dae8f4'>the doctor ordered. That background-color: #dae8f4'>was terribly painful. It took me many sessions to get him to back off on background-color: #dae8f4'>the setting, background-color: #dae8f4'>and I background-color: #dae8f4'>was slowly progressing. At home I had a portable cpm for use background-color: #dae8f4'>and over a 2-3 hr time could get up to 100%.
Avatar f tn In a <span style = '<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>back</span>ground-color: #dae8f4'>knee</span> replacement background-color: #dae8f4'>the joint background-color: #dae8f4'>is completely replaced background-color: #dae8f4'>and background-color: #dae8f4'>the articular surfaces are made mechanical without any synovial background-color: #dae8f4'>fluid to increase your mobility so background-color: #dae8f4'>they are not background-color: #dae8f4'>the same. background-color: #dae8f4'>knee replacement background-color: #dae8f4'>is useful when background-color: #dae8f4'>there background-color: #dae8f4'>is osteorarthritbackground-color: #dae8f4'>is background-color: #dae8f4'>and background-color: #dae8f4'>the articular surface background-color: #dae8f4'>is completely worn out background-color: #dae8f4'>and background-color: #dae8f4'>there background-color: #dae8f4'>is no obackground-color: #dae8f4'>ther alternative rabackground-color: #dae8f4'>ther to replace background-color: #dae8f4'>the bone articular surfaces due to wear background-color: #dae8f4'>and tear of background-color: #dae8f4'>the bone surfaces in contact. Take care!
Avatar m tn In 2001, after seven surgeries on background-color: #dae8f4'>my <span style = '<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>back</span>ground-color: #dae8f4'>knee</span> I underwent a total <span style = '<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>back</span>ground-color: #dae8f4'>knee</span> replacement. For about two years I background-color: #dae8f4'>was pain free, background-color: #dae8f4'>and got around very well. background-color: #dae8f4'>then background-color: #dae8f4'>the pain, worse than before background-color: #dae8f4'>the replacement began, I had surgery to remove an infected bursa, background-color: #dae8f4'>then several obackground-color: #dae8f4'>ther authroscopic surgeries to clean out background-color: #dae8f4'>the background-color: #dae8f4'>knee of scar tbackground-color: #dae8f4'>issue. About two years ago background-color: #dae8f4'>the pain got so bad I had to stop working. I background-color: #dae8f4'>was put on 300mg morphine daily, background-color: #dae8f4'>and some day's background-color: #dae8f4'>the pain background-color: #dae8f4'>was so bad I could not walk.
Avatar f tn Total <span style = '<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>back</span>ground-color: #dae8f4'>knee</span> replacements take time to heal properly. Trust me, I have had both background-color: #dae8f4'>knees replaced background-color: #dae8f4'>and kbackground-color: #dae8f4'>now many obackground-color: #dae8f4'>ther with arthritbackground-color: #dae8f4'>is, bot osteo background-color: #dae8f4'>and rhematoid that have had background-color: #dae8f4'>knee replacement as well. Each of us heal in our own time frame but background-color: #dae8f4'>the general length of time for all to be really right again seems to be around 5 - 6 months. At three months, which background-color: #dae8f4'>was what I background-color: #dae8f4'>was told I should be doing well, I still had a lot of PT background-color: #dae8f4'>and work to do.
Avatar n tn Aside a physical examination, infection around a bone/ joint can be detected through direct background-color: #dae8f4'>and indirect methods such as blood tests, imaging studies background-color: #dae8f4'>and direct aspiration background-color: #dae8f4'>and examination of background-color: #dae8f4'>the joint <span style = '<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>back</span>ground-color: #dae8f4'>fluid</span> etc. Hope thbackground-color: #dae8f4'>is information background-color: #dae8f4'>is helpful. Take care!
5824974 tn?1374952918 I went with background-color: #dae8f4'>the intention of inquiring about a <span style = '<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>back</span>ground-color: #dae8f4'>knee</span> replacement. background-color: #dae8f4'>the surgeon background-color: #dae8f4'>is willing to do background-color: #dae8f4'>the surgery once I lose some more weight (I had weight loss surgery earlier thbackground-color: #dae8f4'>is year), but he's going to try background-color: #dae8f4'>and get background-color: #dae8f4'>my insurance to cover a Synvbackground-color: #dae8f4'>isc One injection, first. I am also going to go through physical background-color: #dae8f4'>therapy to rebuild background-color: #dae8f4'>my muscles. I haven't walked without assbackground-color: #dae8f4'>istance in many years. I've lived in background-color: #dae8f4'>my house for eight years background-color: #dae8f4'>and have only been upstairs background-color: #dae8f4'>and to background-color: #dae8f4'>the basement, twice.
Avatar f tn I have had both background-color: #dae8f4'>knees replaced several years ago In March I fell on a tiled floor striking background-color: #dae8f4'>my left <span style = '<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>back</span>ground-color: #dae8f4'>knee</span> which became swollen background-color: #dae8f4'>and painfu At background-color: #dae8f4'>the ER background-color: #dae8f4'>was told i had a bad contusion background-color: #dae8f4'>my <span style = '<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>back</span>ground-color: #dae8f4'>knee</span> background-color: #dae8f4'>is still swollen background-color: #dae8f4'>and tender with a burning background-color: #dae8f4'>the ortho dr can't seen to find what's wrong but background-color: #dae8f4'>the workman comp dr suggest i may have background-color: #dae8f4'>fluid pressing on a nerve...........
Avatar n tn i had a total <span style = '<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>back</span>ground-color: #dae8f4'>knee</span> replacement 16 months ago ,background-color: #dae8f4'>and i am still having a lot of pain background-color: #dae8f4'>and tightness ,i have ad no end of physio background-color: #dae8f4'>and it as done no good whatsoever.i am on 2 lots of painrelief background-color: #dae8f4'>and it does no good .i background-color: #dae8f4'>was told last year that i background-color: #dae8f4'>now have nerve damage,i am 58 years old background-color: #dae8f4'>and suffered with pain since i background-color: #dae8f4'>was at school,i have attended pain clinic,no good more physio ,no good so what can i try background-color: #dae8f4'>now.
Avatar f tn I have background-color: #dae8f4'>now had 4 surgeries on background-color: #dae8f4'>my left background-color: #dae8f4'>knee, including a partial replacement in 1/11. About 2 months ago, background-color: #dae8f4'>my <span style = '<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>back</span>ground-color: #dae8f4'>knee</span> started swelling without injury. background-color: #dae8f4'>my orthopedbackground-color: #dae8f4'>ist background-color: #dae8f4'>was hesitant to remove background-color: #dae8f4'>the background-color: #dae8f4'>fluid because of background-color: #dae8f4'>the rbackground-color: #dae8f4'>isk of infection, but felt he had to after background-color: #dae8f4'>the 3rd time it swelled, background-color: #dae8f4'>and background-color: #dae8f4'>the joint background-color: #dae8f4'>was full of blood. I had arthroscopic surgery last week, in which background-color: #dae8f4'>they burned off synovial tbackground-color: #dae8f4'>issue, hoping that background-color: #dae8f4'>was causing background-color: #dae8f4'>the problem.
Avatar m tn but we have recently heard that in some background-color: #dae8f4'>knee injections like background-color: #dae8f4'>these, background-color: #dae8f4'>the liquid injected would bebackground-color: #dae8f4'>come rabackground-color: #dae8f4'>ther dense or would solidify let's say background-color: #dae8f4'>and brings back much more pain, causing a need for a new treatment which would mostly be an artificial background-color: #dae8f4'>knee joint.
Avatar f tn One somewhat dated paper by one of background-color: #dae8f4'>the well kbackground-color: #dae8f4'>nown Lyme-denying docs mentioned a patient having <span style = '<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>back</span>ground-color: #dae8f4'>fluid</span> aspirated from background-color: #dae8f4'>the <span style = '<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>back</span>ground-color: #dae8f4'>knee</span>, only to have it background-color: #dae8f4'>come back in a much larger volume, but no dbackground-color: #dae8f4'>iscussion beyond that ... I also just searched Burrascano's tx guidelines background-color: #dae8f4'>and background-color: #dae8f4'>they mention only background-color: #dae8f4'>the initial symptom, not what to do about it. Elevating your leg above heart level (i.e., by lying down background-color: #dae8f4'>and putting your leg up) can't hurt, I wouldn't think, but it may not be gravity-driven.
Avatar m tn background-color: #dae8f4'>the complexity of background-color: #dae8f4'>the design of background-color: #dae8f4'>the <span style = '<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>back</span>ground-color: #dae8f4'>knee</span> joint background-color: #dae8f4'>and background-color: #dae8f4'>the fact that it background-color: #dae8f4'>is an active weight-bearing joint are factors in making background-color: #dae8f4'>the background-color: #dae8f4'>knee one of background-color: #dae8f4'>the most commonly injured joints. It's not necessarily arthritbackground-color: #dae8f4'>is; you're 23, you're young. I'm sure you do activities such as sports. Thbackground-color: #dae8f4'>is can result in a pulled muscle.
93210 tn?1287457826 Anyway, background-color: #dae8f4'>now background-color: #dae8f4'>my ortho doc (unless background-color: #dae8f4'>the <span style = '<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>back</span>ground-color: #dae8f4'>knee</span> greatly improves) background-color: #dae8f4'>is talking about a total <span style = '<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>back</span>ground-color: #dae8f4'>knee</span> replacement in about a year. background-color: #dae8f4'>my obackground-color: #dae8f4'>ther background-color: #dae8f4'>knee background-color: #dae8f4'>is in desperate need of a total because of severe osteoarthritbackground-color: #dae8f4'>is that background-color: #dae8f4'>has chewed away at background-color: #dae8f4'>my joint so much that I'm bone on bone background-color: #dae8f4'>now. background-color: #dae8f4'>my background-color: #dae8f4'>knee background-color: #dae8f4'>is constantly swollen background-color: #dae8f4'>and from time to time background-color: #dae8f4'>has about 60-70 cc's of background-color: #dae8f4'>fluid drawn off of it. background-color: #dae8f4'>and of course background-color: #dae8f4'>the pain background-color: #dae8f4'>is almost constant background-color: #dae8f4'>and mostly severe. Sorry for background-color: #dae8f4'>the long bio.
Avatar n tn Lyme tests reveal nothing but I read someplace that background-color: #dae8f4'>the Lyme dbackground-color: #dae8f4'>isease bacteria may actually be encapsulated in body proteins in a dormant state within background-color: #dae8f4'>the joints - not detected in blood but causing direct background-color: #dae8f4'>issues within background-color: #dae8f4'>the joints. I don't kbackground-color: #dae8f4'>now if pulling joint <span style = '<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>back</span>ground-color: #dae8f4'>fluid</span> out background-color: #dae8f4'>and testing that would reveal anything; I'm not a doctor. Just thought I'd mention it. I saw it here: http://hbotoday.com/treatment/lymedbackground-color: #dae8f4'>isease.shtml In background-color: #dae8f4'>the section titled: "Devastating Survival Tactic?
159619 tn?1318997813 background-color: #dae8f4'>knee joint aspiration background-color: #dae8f4'>and injection are performed to aid in diagnosbackground-color: #dae8f4'>is background-color: #dae8f4'>and treatment of <span style = '<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>back</span>ground-color: #dae8f4'>knee</span> joint dbackground-color: #dae8f4'>iseases. Do you have swelling in background-color: #dae8f4'>and around <span style = '<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>back</span>ground-color: #dae8f4'>knee</span> joint? Corticosteroids background-color: #dae8f4'>therapy changes background-color: #dae8f4'>the vascular inflammatory response to injury, stalls destructive enzymes, background-color: #dae8f4'>and inhibits/restricts background-color: #dae8f4'>the action of inflammatory cells. How many steroid injections are you taking per year? I think what you are experiencing background-color: #dae8f4'>is background-color: #dae8f4'>the post-injection flare.
Avatar f tn Loss of articular cartilage (cartilage covering background-color: #dae8f4'>the bone background-color: #dae8f4'>is a joint), secondary to degenerative changes. 2. Low lying <span style = '<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>back</span>ground-color: #dae8f4'>knee</span> cap with associated inflammation background-color: #dae8f4'>and scarring. 3. Increased <span style = '<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>back</span>ground-color: #dae8f4'>fluid</span> in background-color: #dae8f4'>the joint space, indicative of inflammation background-color: #dae8f4'>and a possible loose body. 4. Degenerative changes at background-color: #dae8f4'>the inner end. 5. Mild fibrous tbackground-color: #dae8f4'>issue formation around background-color: #dae8f4'>the graft. 6. Thinning on background-color: #dae8f4'>the articulate cartilage around background-color: #dae8f4'>the tibia. 7. Mild scar formation along background-color: #dae8f4'>the patellar (background-color: #dae8f4'>knee cap) tendon. Hope thbackground-color: #dae8f4'>is background-color: #dae8f4'>is helpful.
Avatar n tn Told things take time. <span style = '<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>back</span>ground-color: #dae8f4'>knee</span> background-color: #dae8f4'>has to be background-color: #dae8f4'>drained (bloody <span style = '<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>back</span>ground-color: #dae8f4'>fluid</span>) twice. Dr. does 2 cort shots. No relief. Dr says he background-color: #dae8f4'>has no idea what background-color: #dae8f4'>the problem background-color: #dae8f4'>is. Says he background-color: #dae8f4'>is stumped. Tells patient to wait 2 more weeks (putting us at 9 weeks post op). Patient requests anobackground-color: #dae8f4'>ther MRI. MRI #2 with contrast 5/14/12 Results: background-color: #dae8f4'>the medial menbackground-color: #dae8f4'>iscus background-color: #dae8f4'>is moderately diminitive in size through background-color: #dae8f4'>the midzone background-color: #dae8f4'>and to a lesser externt background-color: #dae8f4'>the posteriorly consbackground-color: #dae8f4'>istent with propr partial menbackground-color: #dae8f4'>iscal resection.
Avatar f tn 1 week later whilst crossing background-color: #dae8f4'>the road background-color: #dae8f4'>my background-color: #dae8f4'>knee popped like background-color: #dae8f4'>and elastic bbackground-color: #dae8f4'>and twanging background-color: #dae8f4'>and i experienced a hot pain in background-color: #dae8f4'>the back of background-color: #dae8f4'>the background-color: #dae8f4'>knee area i background-color: #dae8f4'>was rendered lame as i couldnt put any pressure on background-color: #dae8f4'>my leg at all I background-color: #dae8f4'>was refered to an surgeon whom operated on background-color: #dae8f4'>my left background-color: #dae8f4'>knee (cleaning it out of debrbackground-color: #dae8f4'>is) he said i had severe arthritbackground-color: #dae8f4'>is which would only get worse background-color: #dae8f4'>and that i needed a <span style = '<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>back</span>ground-color: #dae8f4'>knee</span> replacement background-color: #dae8f4'>now background-color: #dae8f4'>the problem background-color: #dae8f4'>has again reared its ugly head background-color: #dae8f4'>and affected background-color: #dae8f4'>my right background-color: #dae8f4'>knee thbackground-color: #dae8f4'>is pain background-color: #dae8f4'>is background-color: #dae8f4'>the same but i am background-color: #dae8f4'>now
Avatar m tn cortbackground-color: #dae8f4'>isone injections or hyaluronan injections/ synovial <span style = '<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>back</span>ground-color: #dae8f4'>fluid</span> replacement may be a good option. Cartilage replacement background-color: #dae8f4'>therapy background-color: #dae8f4'>is also an option that can be considered in such cases. It would be best to dbackground-color: #dae8f4'>iscuss background-color: #dae8f4'>the management options in detail with your doctor or you might want to seek a second opinion from anobackground-color: #dae8f4'>ther orthopedician/ pain management specialbackground-color: #dae8f4'>ist, Hope thbackground-color: #dae8f4'>is helps. Take care!
Avatar n tn Obackground-color: #dae8f4'>ther option that can be foreseen with such a bad <span style = '<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>back</span>ground-color: #dae8f4'>knee</span> would be an <span style = '<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>back</span>ground-color: #dae8f4'>knee</span> replacement. To comment on such a surgery requires in depth analysbackground-color: #dae8f4'>is of your condition.
Avatar n tn I had background-color: #dae8f4'>my right total <span style = '<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>back</span>ground-color: #dae8f4'>knee</span> replacement 11/10/11 background-color: #dae8f4'>and background-color: #dae8f4'>my left total <span style = '<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>back</span>ground-color: #dae8f4'>knee</span> replacement 1 1/2 years prior to that. As of today both of background-color: #dae8f4'>my background-color: #dae8f4'>knees continue to throb, shooting pains down background-color: #dae8f4'>my legs, mostly at night. background-color: #dae8f4'>my orthopedic M.D. background-color: #dae8f4'>has done x-rays several times background-color: #dae8f4'>and sees nothing. He claims that it "could" be tendinitbackground-color: #dae8f4'>is. I currently take 2-5mg. ea. immediate release Oxycodone every 4 hours. THAT background-color: #dae8f4'>is hbackground-color: #dae8f4'>is solution. It does help, but not all background-color: #dae8f4'>the time.
Avatar n tn iam mahmoud, i had arthroscopic surgery for repair of anterior curciate ligament in background-color: #dae8f4'>my right background-color: #dae8f4'>knee 10 months ago, & i suffer all thbackground-color: #dae8f4'>is peroid till background-color: #dae8f4'>now from severe stiffness in background-color: #dae8f4'>knee & limitation in movement of background-color: #dae8f4'>my background-color: #dae8f4'>knee joint.
Avatar n tn Recently had TB skin test, background-color: #dae8f4'>and showing similar symptoms described in thbackground-color: #dae8f4'>is thread.
1069378 tn?1255218732 Synvbackground-color: #dae8f4'>isc background-color: #dae8f4'>is an elastic background-color: #dae8f4'>and vbackground-color: #dae8f4'>iscous substance made from hyaluronidase which background-color: #dae8f4'>is found in normal joint <span style = '<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>back</span>ground-color: #dae8f4'>fluid</span>. background-color: #dae8f4'>the most common form of arthritbackground-color: #dae8f4'>is background-color: #dae8f4'>is caused by background-color: #dae8f4'>the breakdown of cartilage in one or more joints. Cartilage acts as a cushion between background-color: #dae8f4'>the bones of joints. When background-color: #dae8f4'>there background-color: #dae8f4'>is cartilage loss, a joint can bebackground-color: #dae8f4'>come bone-on-bone, which background-color: #dae8f4'>is very painful for background-color: #dae8f4'>the patient. Treatment options for osteoarthritbackground-color: #dae8f4'>is focus on pain relief background-color: #dae8f4'>and restoring function to background-color: #dae8f4'>the affected joint.
798555 tn?1292791151 Many do not realize that what background-color: #dae8f4'>they think background-color: #dae8f4'>is joint pain may not be caused from within background-color: #dae8f4'>the joint, unless background-color: #dae8f4'>there background-color: #dae8f4'>is physical joint damage or Rheumatoid. Referred pain simply means pain felt in a different area from its true origin. background-color: #dae8f4'>knee, ankle background-color: #dae8f4'>and shoulder pain background-color: #dae8f4'>is usually from tight muscles (nearby or far) pulling on a joint, so that's where you feel it. Loosening background-color: #dae8f4'>the muscle (if it wont stretch) via acupressure or trigger point release can relieve joint background-color: #dae8f4'>and muscle pain.
Avatar n tn I am 54 had total <span style = '<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>back</span>ground-color: #dae8f4'>knee</span> replacement 12 years ago,(2 obackground-color: #dae8f4'>ther operations before that), first when I background-color: #dae8f4'>was 15, background-color: #dae8f4'>knee would slip out of joint,I eventualy wore bone to bone, third operation took pie slice out of leg bone but thbackground-color: #dae8f4'>is just wore down background-color: #dae8f4'>the obackground-color: #dae8f4'>ther side of background-color: #dae8f4'>knee to were background-color: #dae8f4'>there background-color: #dae8f4'>was nothing left to cusion background-color: #dae8f4'>the background-color: #dae8f4'>knee,said I had background-color: #dae8f4'>the background-color: #dae8f4'>knee of a 85 year old woman, I have a mass of new scar tbackground-color: #dae8f4'>issue from background-color: #dae8f4'>the background-color: #dae8f4'>knee replacement surgry.
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