Fentanyl vs morphine

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Don't have that problem with the biggest reasons I waited as long as I did on a 24 hour pain control. Morphine just don't work for me, so the patch was replaced with the morphine timethe patches! I can tell if I forgot to replace the patch and let it go a day later, I am hurting something fierce. For me, the patch is easier for me to "keep track" of my pain and when it's time to talk to the doctor about changing dosages or break through pain medication.
I can't tell you how it holds up to Morphine, because I'm allergic to Morphine, but I do get fairly good pain control. I've heard that It's stronger than Morphine but I have also heard some people argue that it is not. The only thing that I would wonder is if you have anything for breakthrough pain. I find that I do need breakthrough pain meds. Oh and the drug is oxymorphone hcl. Hope that helps and good luck to you.
As many if you know I am tapering off of high dose fentanyl patches (and eventually oxycodone) prescribed for rheumatoid arthritis and Crohn's disease over the past 20 years. I take the medication as prescribed but I now believe I am being prescribed too much. My psychiatrist suggested going on methadone to help the taper from fentanyl. He said that since it has a longer half-life it is easier to taper from and that the methadone taper will create less withdrawals.
I was just given a script for Fentanyl 100 mcg/hr from my doctor this evening. Prior to this I have been taking Kadian 30mg 3 times a day and 6 Percocet a day. I know nothing about Fentanyl and was wondering what the mcg/hr is and how long after I put this patch on does it start working and am I on the right dose? Is this 100 mcg/hr similar to my 90mg a day of the Kadian? How am I going to feel when this kicks in.
Hello All I was wondering if anybody else out there has had any experiences of using fentanyl patches (especially uk durogesic and matrifen users that were previously on tilofyl or other brand gel based patches) that have had problems with withdrawal symptoms either from faulty patches, changeing to a different patch brand or changing over from oral morphine or other strong oral opioids like oxycodone, methadone, or dipipanone ? Which brand or type works best for you ?
so I didn't have to use a needle in the vein when I wanted to just hooked up the syringe to the heplock and let it go then I even use Saline to flush it...... If you thought dilaudid was potent 8-1 to Morphine Fentanyl is very potent 80-1 to Morphine Liquid Fentanyl in the viles was the best High I ever found in drug history and it got me into some huge trouble and my weight dropped from 205 with a 38" waist to 118 and a 26" waist.......
"I cannot comment on non-medical usage of an opiate agonist in any constructive fashion. Sorry." -- and you should be quite thankful you cannot. Nothing to be sorry about there. Even more blessed are you that you cannot get "what I was driving at" in my post, since it is, in essence, the edge of a big-assed precipice which most sane people NEVER drive at. Never mind. No offense, but what I'm actually after are comments from those who DO know what I'm talking about.
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sent me to a pain clinic at a local hospital. Now I am on Fentanyl patches, 125 mg patch every other day. I also take 4 roxycodones a day, usually all at once at the end of the day. One is like taking a certs. Actually taking 4 at once is not much better. I have been on this regimen for 19 months. Anyway about 4 months ago, the patches started not relieving the pain.
I finally got a script for my time released mophine. I am going to start it in the morning. Wish me luck.
This just does not make sense that u had to lie that u were an addict and then only have options like sub. Be careful of the fentanyl patch even though it is excellent for pain relief. Fentanyl is 100 times stronger than morphine and 50 times stronger than heroin. Do the research. If you ever had to w/d from fent, suboxone for sure would not cover that. I tried the patch and let me tell you, I had noooo pain at all. I got off it just as quick when I did more research.
I don't really think there's much of a difference, based on what I've read. Oxy, hydro, morphine are all full agonist opiates with similar analgesic properties and withdrawals. Now you can probably find big differences between these opiates and others such as fentanyl, methadone, and suboxone.
Can I start the bup now and just take the patches off or will that throw me into withdrawals? Or can I keep em both on (HIGH TOLERANCE I HAVE) I didn/t know people were on patches so much or had so much bup around. MR MICHAEL do you KNOW> I like the bup better, can always get the 50 mg patches.
Incidentally, she reminded me that she was on the patch for a while but thought it was morphine instead of Fentanyl. I don't remember as she's been on so many meds that I can't keep track of them. She liked the IV machine with the push button the best. I watched her nurse change the morphine casette one day and was amazed at the size of the thing! It looked like it might hold four oz. or so. Yeah, I hope you never have to be in the pain my poor wife has endured for six years.
I prefer the fentanyl patch because it is all pain med -- fentanyl is a pure opiate agonist, like morphine, where as Butrans depends on a medication that is part agonist / part partial agonist. But either patch should be worn only by those who are opiate tolerant. Even the circular provided with the Duragesic patch warns against using the patch in those who aren't used to opiate analgesics. Have you tried Oxycontin?
They gave me soma and lortab post-surg in the hospital, unbelievable. One compassionate nurse did see me and gave me a morphine hip-shot, but that was it. Anyway, I'm dazed and confuzed and have to keep working, I'm only 59, divorced and trying to keep my home, but it's a ridiculously miserable way to live. There's multiple bone spurs, fractures, bulging disks, and neurofibromas evident as well, so I just don't trust this implant to do s....
) I told the NP and she said she knows I'm careful with things but that the insurance probably wouldn't pay for a refill since it was so early. So she said we might as well try the Fentanyl patch and morphine. (She also knows my history with my ex so maybe that's why she wasn't too upset over it.) She refilled my script early in January when I was going to Mexico and I would have run out in the middle of vacation. (My boyfriend's primary care doctor will not do this.
The Fentanyl, which I'm on for my Long-Acting Med, is approximately 80 times stronger than Morphine. The Oxycodone (I use Percocet 10/325's for my BT Pain) is not as strong as the Fentanyl. Which meds are you on for your pain? As I said above, I'm very happy that you have found this site and I hope that you will enjoy the support that we offer here for you!! You might also, enjoy the Cancer Forum's. Here's the Link: http://www.medhelp.
You can take too much and not realize it and never wake up, not trying to scare you but its crazy they gave you that... I would ask about MsContin (morphine sulfate) which is extended release or fentanyl patch. Good luck.
I think there is a misconception out there that 50 mg of painkiller A is equivalent to 50 mg of painkiller B in terms of potency, half-life, withdrawal, etc. This is just not true. The quantity matters when making comparisons, as does the method of administration (oral vs injected vs snorted vs smoked). Just google "equianalgesic table" and you will see what I mean.
I was 150lbs when I started taking Fentanyl for pain issue. Fentanyl caused me to go down to 108lbs and have stopped the Fentanyl almost a year now. Currently 126 but want to go back to my previous weight. Was taking ensure but have lactose tolerant problems. How do I gain back the weight? Trying to eat a lot more pasta that I love but noting happening. Stuck at 126lbs for almost 6 months now. Any advise?
So if you remember I converted your total daily dose of Fentanyl to Oxycontin and it came out to be 210 mg of Oxycontin. That is 150 mg of Oxycontin less than what you were taking through Fentanyl vs. 90 mg of Oxycontin more than you were taking. It now makes perfect sense to me why you are in so much pain on the Fentanyl. Converting 360 mg of Oxycontin to Fentanyl results in 150 mcg/hr...this is conservative.
Hi everyone, I was recently taken off my usual pain med regimine of 75 micr of Fentanyl Patch every 48 hours and 4 mg hydramorphone ( dilauded) 4-6 times a day.
theres no half life after 5 days
d Various opioid agonists (e.g., morphine, methadone, fentanyl) have been shown to differ in their ability to desensitize or down-regulate opioid receptors (Arden et al 1995, Sim-Selley et al 2000, Yabaluri & Medzihradsky 1997). Some of these differences have been attributed to the "intrinsic efficacy" of the opioid agonist. Each opioid has a given level of intrinsic efficacy for the various opioid receptors.
I don't think it's an opiate blocker at all, as I take it when my body gets used to used taking either oxycontin, morphine, or fentanyl (my tolerance to the drug increases).
Basically it's for people who have already been taking something like oxycodone daily or hydromorphone daily and they've started to get break-through pain with those medications, so they need something stronger and something long-lasting. But, since fentanyl is so strong, much stronger than morphine, oxycodone, or even hydromorphone...
I have recently been referred to a new pain management doc and he is in the process of adding/switching me over to Kadian for long-acting pain control vs. just the Norco I have been on....my question primarily is how long will it take for me to adjust to the change from short acting opiate to the extended release meds...
When I found out I was pregnant we were able to reduce this to 9 different types of medicine. 2 of those 9 meds were fentanyl and morphine. I suffer from very severe pain in my spine as it is broken in 3 places, have an incomplete spinal cord injury, spondylyosis, spondylyothesis and spinal stenosis. (These are just my spinal problems) When my baby was born he had mild withdrawel symptoms. He is now 11 months old.
Injection vs. Oral or IR VS SR Oxycodone produces more euphoria and a faster onset of action! So, if you compare oral Dilaudid to Oxycodone, without question, Dilaudid(Hydromorphone)IR is less addictive than Oxycodone IR(Percocet). Even correct dosage of Oxycodone produces ''Morphine-like'' Euphoria With that said; Dilaudid(Hydromorphone) is more than twice as potent as Oxycodone and if a person injects Hydromorphone it too is highly addictive!
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