Difference between armour thyroid and nature throid

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Is there a <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>difference</span> <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>between</span> the T4 in Synthroid <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>and</span> in Nature Throid/<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>armour</span>? I was just switched to Synthroid and I'm feeling the difference. All the hypo symptoms are back with a vengence with in 4 days. Took Nature Throid dose to get thru the day. How long does it take for Synthroid T4 to start converting to T3? Is going from 130mg nature Throid to 137mcg of Synthroid normal? It is less T4 that I was getting on NT. Can anyone help me with this? I feel like I'm going crazy.
A pill that has ECI 125 etched in it is 125mg or 2 grain size of ERFA <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'><span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>thyroid</span></span> <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>and</span> has nothing to do with the Nature-Throid US brand. 1)So, in Canada, you found US made Nature-Throid brand in a pharmacy? What do they have etched on them? 2)What pills made you sick, what do the etching say?
I have prescribed natural dessicated <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'><span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>thyroid</span></span> for your patient (<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>armour</span> or Nature-Throid). These contain T4 <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>and</span> T3 (40mcg <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>and</span> 9mcg respectively per 60mg). They are more effective than T4 therapy for most patients. Since they provide more T3 than the thyroid gland produces, the well-replaced patient’s free T4 will be around the middle of its range or lower, and the FT3 will be high-“normal” or slightly high before the AM dose.
The difference between ERFA is it absorbs better into cells in some people because of the fillers used, or lets say because of the fillers that are NOT used. New formulated <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>armour</span> <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>and</span> Nature Throid changed their filler to micro crystalline cellulose.
After that, just maybe Nature-throid will be available. I'm never going to get a script of the new <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>armour</span> again.
Good post, Jenny. That was the thing. I thought armour would be better just because it was natural. I didn't research it as well as I should have before I took the medicine. The other thing that is interesting is prior to starting armour, I had my thyroid Peroixidase Antibodies tested nad Thyroglobulin Antibodies tested. I didn't have any at the time I started armour. Now....I was on armour for about a year and I began to have more problems in Nov of last year because my TSH got high.
1/4 (16.25 mg), 1/2 (32.5 mg), 3/4 (48.75 mg), 1 (65 mg), 1.25 (81.25 mg), 1.5 (97.5 mg), 1.75 (113.75 mg), 2 (130 mg), 2.25 (146.25 mg), 2.5 (162.5 mg), 3 (195 mg), 4 (260 mg), & 5 (325 mg) grain. Each one grain (65 mg) contains 9 µg of T3, and 38 µg of T4. All brands contain a mixture of thyroid hormones: T4 (thyroxine), T3 (triiodothyronine) in the proportions usually present in pig thyroids (approximately 80% T4 and 20% T3).
There is only one form of T3/T4 combo <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'><span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>thyroid</span></span> med <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>and</span> that is <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>armour</span> <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>and</span> the other desiccated <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'><span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>thyroid</span></span> hormone medication. If the makers of Synthroid made a synthetic "combo" of T3/T4 thyroid hormone medication for these particular conversion issues than that med would be just as close as the desiccated ones. There is no "combo" med made in synthetic form. Cytomel can be added to Synthroid to give the same results of desiccated T3/T4 combo meds do together.
Maybe you should give Erfa another shot, but add it in slowly <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>and</span> divide it <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>between</span> 3 doses per day. Everyone feels it is very similar to the old good <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>armour</span> <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>and</span> it did great for you, so maybe the Erfa will to if you take it slower and give yourself more time (could take several months-2 weeks is not long enough to tell and switching back and forth on meds can set you up for real failure- consistency and time is key!
I take dessicated because I have too (a very small percentage really need it), for me its not a choice. If synthroid worked for me, thats what I'd take. By the way <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>armour</span> <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>and</span> Nature Throid brands of US dessicated are not the same after they reformulated them. Read my MCC post.
I found a new doctor, a family practice MD, highly recommended by my compounding pharmacist who is not afraid to deal with her conversion issues head on, and can think beyond the synthroid box! She has been on <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>armour</span> <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'><span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>thyroid</span></span> for 6 weeks now, <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>and</span> OH THE <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>difference</span> in her attitude, energy level, skin, hair, happiness, body temp., hunger, bloating,constipation, and her ability to function in the morning with a smile! The heart palps are still an issue, but don't seem to happen as often!
Also I'm wondering what the <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>difference</span> is <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>between</span> Nature-Throid <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>and</span> the WP <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'><span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>thyroid</span></span> as the only thing I can tell is the fillers does anyone know? Maybe I should call the company as they are both made by RLC Labs. I will let you know what I find out if anyone is interested.
My dosage was just increased about a week ago. I'm not quite sure what the <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>difference</span> is <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>between</span> synthroid <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>and</span> <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>armour</span>. I know that all Drs. don't like to use armour, though I don't know why. My heart flutters started a few months after being on synthroid. My dosage was decreased and finally the flutters went away...but my TSH rose to 35! Needless to say they slowly increased my dose again to what it is now. The only difference now is that I am on name brand synthroid instead of generic.
Now the prescription has changed again to 100 mcg Synthroid and 45 mg of <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>armour</span>. Is this normal is 1) take two different <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'><span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>thyroid</span></span> medications <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>and</span> 2) changes in dosage so often. I just started the new Synthroid-armour dosage yesterday morning and my heart feels like it's pounding....
I was just talking with guys at work and they never heard of men having <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'><span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>thyroid</span></span> problems, <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>and</span> then I check on line <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>and</span> it is rare. I was just wondering if anyone here knows of any men who have thyroid problems? and if my 16.96 TSH is something to be concerned about. THANKS!
but if i dont take any synthroid i go hypo. <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>and</span> i also find it very difficult to tell the <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>difference</span> <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>between</span> hyper <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>and</span> hypo. anyways, its trial and error to find the right dosage, just wanted to let you know that i dont need much. you might not be the same as me but.
We switched to an MD who specializes in hormones <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>and</span> switched to desiccated hormone (Nature-Throid) which has t3 in it. I am happy to report that she no longer has PVC's, muscle pain, joint aches, constipation w/ blood in her stools,moodiness, temp. issues etc....She is optimal and feeling great. To prove it, we just returned from a family ski trip at high altitudes, where she skied every day with no physical issues of any kind! She could not have done that a year ago!
I have prescribed natural dessicated <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'><span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>thyroid</span></span> for your patient (<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>armour</span> or Nature-Throid). These contain T4 <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>and</span> T3 (40mcg <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>and</span> 9mcg respectively per 60mg). They are more effective than T4 therapy for most patients. Since they provide more T3 than the thyroid gland produces, the well-replaced patient’s free T4 will be around the middle of its range or lower, and the FT3 will be high-“normal” or slightly high before the AM dose.
but I have been on a strict GF diet for 3 months, had my Nature Throid ( non synthetic hypothyroid medication ) dose adjusted, <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>and</span> now I feel fantastic...I lost 7 pounds ( 132 to 125 ), have the energy I used to have, joint pain gone, etc etc... I am trying to do this as naturally as I can...
I fluctuate <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>between</span> a loss of 1-2 lbs but thats it....The workouts have reduced my cholest. <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>and</span> my <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'><span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>thyroid</span></span> is norm. - my mean blood glucose is 101. When I was in my 20's I did a sugar test because I was having trouble with sugar in general - the test back then (coke syrup and blood tests) - showed that I had trouble absorbing sugar - basically it hung out in my blood stream a lot longer and I did not absorb it as fast. When I had my 2nd child in my mid 30's I became a gestational diabetic.
The number one <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>difference</span> you'll find is that <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>armour</span>, Nature-Throid, <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>and</span> West-Throid all have both T4 <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>and</span> T3 hormones in them. Whereas synthetic replacement has only T4. http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/armourthyroid.htm armour contains both T4 and T3. http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/liothyronine.htm Cytomel contains only T3. http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/synthroid.htm Synthroid contains only T4.
That sounds a bit strange, since it is porcine <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'><span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>thyroid</span></span>. That is the same as used in <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>armour</span> <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'><span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>thyroid</span></span>, or Nature- Throid. Those contain T4 to T3 in a ratio of about 39 mcg of T4 and 9 mcg of T3 in each grain of the NDT, which is 60 mg. I don't see how they could do anything to change the ratio. Anyway if you are getting 150mg (2 1/2 grains) of the med, I expect that it is giving you 2 1/2 times the 39 mcg of T4 and 2 1/2 times the 9 mcg of T3, for a total of 97.5 mcg of T4 and 22.
Based on what you have said about this doctor I expect that at that point he will refuse <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>and</span> you can then move on <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>and</span> find a good <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'><span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>thyroid</span></span> doctor that will treat you in this manner.
The manufacturer of this drug has conversion tables stating the equivalency <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>between</span> 1/2 grain of Nature-Throid <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>and</span> 50mcg of levothyroxine. I wonder why it did not seem to apply to me, that is why my TSH jumped.
Some on this forum do better on natural drugs like <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>armour</span>, Nature-Throid or Westthroid. Below is the link provided by <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>armour</span> to doctors in your zip code who will prescribe natural thyroid medicine because many endos won't prescribe it. http://www.armourthyroid.com/con_phLocator.aspx I must warn you that people in many states are having a hard time filling their orders because armour is experiencing a shortage and everyone is overloading the other natural thyroid companies.
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