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Difference between armour thyroid and nature throid

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Is there a difference between the T4 in Synthroid and in Nature Throid/Armour? I was just switched to Synthroid and I'm feeling the difference. All the hypo symptoms are back with a vengence with in 4 days. Took Nature Throid dose to get thru the day. How long does it take for Synthroid T4 to start converting to T3? Is going from 130mg nature Throid to 137mcg of Synthroid normal? It is less T4 that I was getting on NT. Can anyone help me with this? I feel like I'm going crazy.
A pill that has ECI 125 etched in it is 125mg or 2 grain size of ERFA Thyroid and has nothing to do with the Nature-Throid US brand. 1)So, in Canada, you found US made Nature-Throid brand in a pharmacy? What do they have etched on them? 2)What pills made you sick, what do the etching say?
I have prescribed natural dessicated thyroid for your patient (Armour or Nature-Throid). These contain T4 and T3 (40mcg and 9mcg respectively per 60mg). They are more effective than T4 therapy for most patients. Since they provide more T3 than the thyroid gland produces, the well-replaced patient’s free T4 will be around the middle of its range or lower, and the FT3 will be high-“normal” or slightly high before the AM dose.
The difference between ERFA is it absorbs better into cells in some people because of the fillers used, or lets say because of the fillers that are NOT used. New formulated Armour and Nature Throid changed their filler to micro crystalline cellulose.
After that, just maybe Nature-throid will be available. I'm never going to get a script of the new Armour again.
Good post, Jenny. That was the thing. I thought Armour would be better just because it was natural. I didn't research it as well as I should have before I took the medicine. The other thing that is interesting is prior to starting Armour, I had my Thyroid Peroixidase Antibodies tested nad Thyroglobulin Antibodies tested. I didn't have any at the time I started Armour. Now....I was on Armour for about a year and I began to have more problems in Nov of last year because my TSH got high.
1/4 (16.25 mg), 1/2 (32.5 mg), 3/4 (48.75 mg), 1 (65 mg), 1.25 (81.25 mg), 1.5 (97.5 mg), 1.75 (113.75 mg), 2 (130 mg), 2.25 (146.25 mg), 2.5 (162.5 mg), 3 (195 mg), 4 (260 mg), & 5 (325 mg) grain. Each one grain (65 mg) contains 9 µg of T3, and 38 µg of T4. All brands contain a mixture of thyroid hormones: T4 (thyroxine), T3 (triiodothyronine) in the proportions usually present in pig thyroids (approximately 80% T4 and 20% T3).
There is only one form of T3/T4 combo thyroid med and that is Armour and the other desiccated thyroid hormone medication. If the makers of Synthroid made a synthetic "combo" of T3/T4 thyroid hormone medication for these particular conversion issues than that med would be just as close as the desiccated ones. There is no "combo" med made in synthetic form. Cytomel can be added to Synthroid to give the same results of desiccated T3/T4 combo meds do together.
Maybe you should give Erfa another shot, but add it in slowly and divide it between 3 doses per day. Everyone feels it is very similar to the old good Armour and it did great for you, so maybe the Erfa will to if you take it slower and give yourself more time (could take several months-2 weeks is not long enough to tell and switching back and forth on meds can set you up for real failure- consistency and time is key!
I take dessicated because I have too (a very small percentage really need it), for me its not a choice. If synthroid worked for me, thats what I'd take. By the way Armour and Nature Throid brands of US dessicated are not the same after they reformulated them. Read my MCC post.
I have spoken to 2 separate ND's and they strongly suggest using Armour and leaving some thyroid in. I have 2 seperate philosophies and am very unsure who to follow. They both have great points.
I found a new doctor, a family practice MD, highly recommended by my compounding pharmacist who is not afraid to deal with her conversion issues head on, and can think beyond the synthroid box! She has been on Armour thyroid for 6 weeks now, and OH THE DIFFERENCE in her attitude, energy level, skin, hair, happiness, body temp., hunger, bloating,constipation, and her ability to function in the morning with a smile! The heart palps are still an issue, but don't seem to happen as often!
Also I'm wondering what the difference is between Nature-Throid and the WP Thyroid as the only thing I can tell is the fillers does anyone know? Maybe I should call the company as they are both made by RLC Labs. I will let you know what I find out if anyone is interested.
Now the prescription has changed again to 100 mcg Synthroid AND 45 mg of Armour. Is this normal is 1) take two different thyroid medications and 2) changes in dosage so often. I just started the new Synthroid-Armour dosage yesterday morning and my heart feels like it's pounding....
My dosage was just increased about a week ago. I'm not quite sure what the difference is between synthroid and armour. I know that all Drs. don't like to use armour, though I don't know why. My heart flutters started a few months after being on synthroid. My dosage was decreased and finally the flutters went away...but my TSH rose to 35! Needless to say they slowly increased my dose again to what it is now. The only difference now is that I am on name brand synthroid instead of generic.
I was just talking with guys at work and they never heard of men having thyroid problems, and then I check on line and it is rare. I was just wondering if anyone here knows of any men who have thyroid problems? And if my 16.96 TSH is something to be concerned about. THANKS!
but if i dont take any synthroid i go hypo. and i also find it very difficult to tell the difference between hyper and hypo. anyways, its trial and error to find the right dosage, just wanted to let you know that i dont need much. you might not be the same as me but.
I have prescribed natural dessicated thyroid for your patient (Armour or Nature-Throid). These contain T4 and T3 (40mcg and 9mcg respectively per 60mg). They are more effective than T4 therapy for most patients. Since they provide more T3 than the thyroid gland produces, the well-replaced patient’s free T4 will be around the middle of its range or lower, and the FT3 will be high-“normal” or slightly high before the AM dose.
We switched to an MD who specializes in hormones and switched to desiccated hormone (Nature-Throid) which has t3 in it. I am happy to report that she no longer has PVC's, muscle pain, joint aches, constipation w/ blood in her stools,moodiness, temp. issues etc....She is optimal and feeling great. To prove it, we just returned from a family ski trip at high altitudes, where she skied every day with no physical issues of any kind! She could not have done that a year ago!
but I have been on a strict GF diet for 3 months, had my Nature Throid ( non synthetic hypothyroid medication ) dose adjusted, and now I feel fantastic...I lost 7 pounds ( 132 to 125 ), have the energy I used to have, joint pain gone, etc etc... I am trying to do this as naturally as I can...
I fluctuate between a loss of 1-2 lbs but thats it....The workouts have reduced my cholest. and my Thyroid is norm. - my mean blood glucose is 101. When I was in my 20's I did a sugar test because I was having trouble with sugar in general - the test back then (coke syrup and blood tests) - showed that I had trouble absorbing sugar - basically it hung out in my blood stream a lot longer and I did not absorb it as fast. When I had my 2nd child in my mid 30's I became a gestational diabetic.
The number one difference you'll find is that Armour, Nature-Throid, and West-Throid all have both T4 and T3 hormones in them. Whereas synthetic replacement has only T4. http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/armourthyroid.htm Armour contains both T4 and T3. http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/liothyronine.htm Cytomel contains only T3. http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/synthroid.htm Synthroid contains only T4.
That sounds a bit strange, since it is porcine thyroid. That is the same as used in Armour Thyroid, or Nature- Throid. Those contain T4 to T3 in a ratio of about 39 mcg of T4 and 9 mcg of T3 in each grain of the NDT, which is 60 mg. I don't see how they could do anything to change the ratio. Anyway if you are getting 150mg (2 1/2 grains) of the med, I expect that it is giving you 2 1/2 times the 39 mcg of T4 and 2 1/2 times the 9 mcg of T3, for a total of 97.5 mcg of T4 and 22.
Of course if you also need T3 in your meds, there are the NDT types, like Armour, and Nature-Throid.
Based on what you have said about this doctor I expect that at that point he will refuse and you can then move on and find a good thyroid doctor that will treat you in this manner.
The manufacturer of this drug has conversion tables stating the equivalency between 1/2 grain of Nature-Throid and 50mcg of levothyroxine. I wonder why it did not seem to apply to me, that is why my TSH jumped.
Some on this forum do better on natural drugs like Armour, Nature-Throid or Westthroid. Below is the link provided by Armour to doctors in your zip code who will prescribe natural thyroid medicine because many endos won't prescribe it. http://www.armourthyroid.com/con_phLocator.aspx I must warn you that people in many states are having a hard time filling their orders because Armour is experiencing a shortage and everyone is overloading the other natural thyroid companies.
The reformulated armour works better than reformulated Nature Throid and ERFA works better than both of those. I've switched to ERFA now and loving it.
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