Buprenorphine vs hydrocodone
Common Questions and Answers about Buprenorphine vs hydrocodone
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Percocet is the brand name of the generic drug oxycodone and acetaminophen and Vicodin is a brand name of the generic drug Hydrocodone and acetaminophen. Both oxycodone and Hydrocodone is a narcotic drug and are often used in combination with acetaminophen or APAP, a no steroidal anti inflammatory drug which helps in increasing their potency.
Suboxone contains buprenorphine, an opiate that is a partial agonist at the receptor and that has been around for over 30 years. If you read any 'goodman and gilman' (the bible of pharmacology) you will read that 'buprenorphine is less addictive than other opiates because of the partial agonist effects'. But for anyone addicted to opiates, even codeine is very addictive!
The more progressive doctors will allow an opioid-addicted mother on buprenorphine to continue to take buprenorphine while breast feeding, as doing so will effectively taper the infant off opioids over time. Whenever a woman on opioids breast feeds, the infant receives a tiny fraction of what the mother is on, and much of that is broken down by the infant liver before reaching the general circulation.
Suboxone is the brand name for a medication consisting of buprenorphine and naloxone. Buprenorphine is a thebaine derivative with powerful analgesia approximately 20-40x more potent than morphine. Buprenorphine is a partial agonist and antagonist of the opioid receptors in the central nervous system which means that when its molecule binds to a receptor, it will transduce only a partial response in contrast to a full agonist such as morphine.
Okay, I'll just go ahead and ask...even though I p.m.d flmagi about sub and she answered me so eloquently (thanks magi)I shouldn't have a question but this is one I don't get. I am ignorant. Yep, that's me. But I have to ask;
What's the difference? Take Sub or take Vic's? What's the difference? I don't get it....is the difference you take just one Sub vs 10 vic's in a day? One drug for another...?
My name is Newgirl and I'm ignorant...
The problem with buprenorphine, whether it's pure, in suboxone, or whatever, is that it's only a PARTIAL opoid agonist. That means that it is limited in its effect. Based on the years of research they did with the stuf before it got approvedf, if you're using over 40mg of methadone, it's real unlikely that any ampunt of buprenorphine is going to keep you out of withdrawal.
m currently at day 6 of detoxing from a 1 year/15-20 pills a day hydrocodone habit. I have the help of a doctor and am on a whole slew of meds (buprenorphine, gabapentin, phenobarbital, and roboxin).
The last 2 days I've woken up with terrible headaches! Yesterday it turned into a migraine (puking, blurred vision..the whole 9!). My doctor switched my buprenorphine to Suboxone on Monday. But when I got the migraine he switched it back, thinking that's what caused it.
Buprenorphine, marketed under the brand name Suboxone, was developed as a safer alternative for treating people addicted to heroin and painkillers compared to methadone. It was also designed to be resistant to abuse, but it hasn't turned out that way.
I just found out (not by being told) that my boyfriend has a buprenorphine addiction. I don't know exactly what that means but have researched and gathered that he is addicted to opioids and this is a drug that takes it place? Is this a drug that you take to wean yourself off? And if so, how long do you take it?
question: if 1 mg of suboxone is equal to 20-30 mgs of hydrocodone would that be the same for oxycontin would 1 mg of sub be equal to 20-30 mgs oxy then?
Eagle is correct, Cathy-- buprenorphine, Suboxone, and Subutex are all essentially identical. Buprenorphine has been around for 30 years; it used to be sold under the brand 'temgesic' in liquid form before being made as Suboxone, which is easier to dose. Buprenorphine is used for pain, mostly in Europe-- a skin patch in the UK called 'buTrans' releases 5-20 micrograms of bupe per hour through the skin.
Six years ago, in 2003, Suboxone became available in the US.
The flip side of all of this is that tolerance reaches a maximum at about 4 mg of buprenorphine, and further increase in dose of buprenorphine does not cause substantial increase in tolerance. Tolerance and withdrawal are two sides of the same coin; the lack of withdrawal going from 32 to 8 mg of buprenorphine is consistent with no significant change in tolerance across that range.
So in my opinion, being on 32 vs 4 mg of Suboxone doesn't raise your tolerance.
I have been off the smack for two months and am coming off the buprenorphine tomorrow. Does anyone know how long it takes to exit your system cause I have taken it 3 days more than I was told and finished today.Tomorrow I have a urine test where they look for things like that. Will it still be in my urine?How long does it take to exit? If your wandering why I'm coming off so fast its because I'm going overseas and I need the ok from the doctor. He thinks I stopped three days ago.
They must go through a short course to become a Certified Buprenorphine Provider. Upon completing they are issued a seperate DEA # that allows them to prescribe sub. This number is only used in the writing of buprenorphine scripts. Upon completion, for their first year I believe they can only have a load of 30 patients that they can prescribe to. After that year is up, they can prescribe up to 100 patients. This is why Suboxone clinics/docs have such long waiting lists.
i have chronic back pain too. got hooked on hydrocodone for 4 years. kicked it 2 years ago.
this is how i looked at it.
there is no miracle pill to make it all better. so the sooner we accept that , the better.
the doctors are a bunch of useless information they have had crammed down their throats.
i researched and climate and humidity can really affect pain. i moved to the desert. phoenix and it has helped my pain tremendously. if they can operate on you, than that is something.
I see many people who follow a certain pattern-- they are addicted to opioids and lose everything, then they go on buprenorphine and get their lives back.... at some point they try to stop buprenorphine, and blame buprenorphine for their opioid dependence-- even though the buprenorphine was the only thing that saved them. They then struggle to stop buprenorphine, going back to their original drugs of choice to treat the withdrawal from buprenorphine! Crazy...
Let me tell you about it. Suboxone is the brand name for a medication consisting of buprenorphine and naloxone. Buprenorphine is a thebaine derivative with powerful analgesia approximately 20-40x more potent than morphine. Buprenorphine is a partial agonist and antagonist of the opioid receptors in the central nervous system which means when the its molecule binds to a receptor, it will transduce only a partial response in contrast to a full agonist such as morphine.
Switching from Suboxone to Belbuca shouldn't be a problem imo because they have the same opioid in them - buprenorphine - your Dr. Would know this too. The Belbuca, however doesn't contain naloxone which is what's suppose to keep you from wanting to abuse the drug or get high - which might be a concern for you? Honestly the Dr.
will seep into the back of your head and dissapear. I really think that when a preg. woman takes methadone or buprenorphine, the baby becomes predisposed to becoming an addict and I've known a few woman that were addicts and in treatment, and some who were userers and not in treatment. Clean is the best way to go. You will still think about the meds. for months, thats how strong the addiction is. I've been an opiate addict for 12yrs.
I've been taking hydrocodone/methadone combo on/off for almost 6 years. Lately, I've cut the methadone out completely. It's been a month since I've taken any. I've still been taking at least 10 mg; at most 30-40 mg of hydrocodone a day for the past month if not 2 months, I can't remember. I have started attending NA meetings and I want to quit completely. In patient rehab isn't an option bc I have a great job and don't want to lose it.
Not really any difference. Vicoprofen has Ibuprofen with the Hydrocodone. Vicodin has Tylenol. Strength would be the same if they both were the same dose.
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