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Dear Doctor: Is it possible to switch from methadone 60mgm.'s to buprenorphine eight mgm's? When will our family physician be able to prescribe buprenorphine for maintenace or detox purposes? Does methadone or other opiates have to be out of our systems to switch to buprenorphine for maintenace or detox purposes? How long does bup. stay in our body for maintenace reasons? Would you take you dose daily or q 72 hours?Thank you for your reply. Dan...
I've contemplated taking clonopin or vicodin to help the withdrawel which is insane since I've been clean and sober for 4 1/2 years. HAS ANYONE GOTTEN OFF OF BUPRENORPHINE SUCCESSFULLY?
#Pain Killer Equivalent Doses (Oral) 1.2mg.............Buprenorphine (Bupe) 200mg............Codeine (Tylenol 2, 3, 4, etc) 30-60mg.........Diacetylmorphine (Heroin) (orally it = morphine, IV/IM/insuffilated it's 2x as strong) 100mg............Dihydrocodeine 30mg..............Hydrocodone (Vicodin, Lorcet, etc) 7.5mg.............Hydromorphone (Dilaudid) 37.5µg............Fentanyl (not sure on this one, anyone know the oral dose equivalence for Fentanyl?) 4mg................
reliability of the relative potency estimate used to calculate the equivalent dose of buprenorphine needed ; patient's degree of opioid experience and opioid tolerance; general condition and medical status of the patient; concurrent medication; and type and severity of the patient's pain. Total Daily Dose of Opioid Less than 30 mg of Oral Morphine Equivalents per Day is equivalent to butrans at 5 mcg/hour. (ref: http://www.drugs.com/pro/butrans-patch.
Friends, just a question that I would like to know the answer to. There is the "New" Suboxone that has come out called Zubsolv. Zubsolv come in a 5.7mg tablet and is suppose to be equivalent to Suboxone 8mg. Something about this new drug absorbs better in your system so you need less. My friend is just started taking Zubsolv and he is driving me nuts by saying the Drug Industry is sending out a placebo and no way is Zubsolv equivalent to Suboxone.
Can someone switch from methadone to buprenorphine? It is best to SLOWLY reduce your therapeutic dose of Methadone to 30 mg a day or less for at least a week, before discontinuing it completely for at least 36 hours before starting Buprenorphine. You MUST be in mild to moderate withdrawal before you take your first dose of Buprenorphine.
When some people do this it takes a while to adjust from one to the other, because subutex has only 1 main ingredient ( buprenorphine ) and Suboxone has 2 main ingredients ( buprenorphine and Naloxone ) Some people dont take too well to the Naloxone, and have symptoms of what you are feeling right now. But it could be your dose or the Naloxone.
32PM - 5 comments #Pain Killer Equivalent Doses (Oral) 1.2mg.............Buprenorphine (Bupe) 200mg............Codeine (Tylenol 2, 3, 4, etc) 30-60mg.........Diacetylmorphine (Heroin) (orally it = morphine, IV/IM/insuffilated it's 2x as strong) 100mg............Dihydrocodeine 30mg..............Hydrocodone (Vicodin, Lorcet, etc) 7.5mg.............Hydromorphone (Dilaudid) 4mg................Levorphanol (Dromoran) 300mg............Meperidine (Demerol) 10-20mg.........Methadone 30-60mg.
#Pain Killer Equivalent Doses (Oral) 1.2mg.............Buprenorphine (Bupe) 200mg............Codeine (Tylenol 2, 3, 4, etc) 30-60mg.........Diacetylmorphine (Heroin) (orally it = morphine, IV/IM/insuffilated it's 2x as strong) 100mg............Dihydrocodeine 30mg..............Hydrocodone (Vicodin, Lorcet, etc) 7.5mg.............Hydromorphone (Dilaudid) 4mg................Levorphanol (Dromoran) 300mg............Meperidine (Demerol) 10-20mg.........Methadone 30-60mg.........
I think there is a misconception out there that 50 mg of painkiller A is equivalent to 50 mg of painkiller B in terms of potency, half-life, withdrawal, etc. This is just not true. The quantity matters when making comparisons, as does the method of administration (oral vs injected vs snorted vs smoked). Just google "equianalgesic table" and you will see what I mean.
I can certainly understand your frustration as even a lot of physicians dont really understand Treatment using Buprenorphine (Suboxone and Subutex) Ive had to spend the last 3 years researching this medicine to be able to understand it... docs only have to take an 8 hour online course to prescribe. Im working flights this afternoon, but just wanted to post now to let you know I'll be back. I have all kinds of info I can give you, and will be back later this evening after I get off work.
Hello to All: The FDA has approved Butrans™ (buprenorphine) Transdermal System CIII for the management of moderate to severe chronic pain in patients requiring a continuous, around-the-clock opioid analgesic for an extended period of time. The Butrans Transdermal System is an analgesic product that delivers a continuous release of medication for seven days. Butrans is an opioid and is classified as a Schedule III controlled substance.
Some have used it for pain management some addiction. Its the site herion-detox.com go to the Buprenorphine/Suboxone forum there.
for example, a 10mg dose of oxycodone by mouth is equivalent to 15mg morphine by mouth. A dose of 10mg oxycodone intravenously is equivalent to 7.5mg of morphine intravenously. Half life is roughly the same no matter what ROA. If you are addicted to a low dose (say, 100mg morphine equivalent PO [by mouth] daily), I believe cold turkey* is the best option. For a higher dose than that, I believe Suboxone is the best option.
I don't want to sound like a 'one size fits all' person, but I HAVE had referrals for Suboxone for people with your problem, and some have done well; others thought they needed more analgesia than the equivalent dose of about 50 mg of OC per day, and they changed back to agonists. There are several articles now on using buprenorphine, the active medication in Suboxone, to treat depression; I would not recommend that in anyone who isn't already tolerant to opiates.
I think that Buprenex, which is equivalent to buprenorphine, is prescribed in the U.S. for withdrawals so maybe you could discuss this with your doctor. About suddenly stopping the Darvon after taking it for awhile, you are going to go through the withdrawals. There are lots of different ways to deal with this (other than tapering) - the standard hot baths, immodium, etc. Sounds as if you have two good meds (librium/ambien) to help you along, this should lessen the symptoms somewhat.
Why are ANY of you detoxing without using buprenorphine? Is it because of lack of knowledge or lack of knowing where to go to get buprenorphine? I would be interested for responses, also, for those who have used it, do you agree with me it is almost a "painless" detox? Buprenorphine IS available for detox. Usually you have to go to either an outpatient detox program or an addiction medicine doctor.
As I had mentioned to you before your use was not that high, when compared to others using this medication. Do you realize that 1mg of suboxone is equivalent to 50mg of morphine, That would be morphine taken orally, I would try taking. The suboxone effect your experiencing is in no way even close to the high produced heroin. I think you may have exaggerated on the actual use of norco hoping to get a higher dose prescribed.
I researched and found out about Suboxone/Subutex (Buprenorphine). I decided I could do the subutex (the nalaxone sp? Can cause gastric bypass folks some bad symptoms). I went into the GP with my plan. She did not seem keen to put me on subutex as she didn’t feel addiction was the worry. She put me on BuTrans patches 10mcg. I decided to TRY them-with the HOPE that maybe some of the good qualities about the med (reducing cravings) would happen.
I have taken both//but for the wrong reasons and preferred a subutex buzz over suboxone's buzz #Pain Killer Equivalent Doses (Oral) 1.2mg.............Buprenorphine (Bupe) 200mg............Codeine (Tylenol 2, 3, 4, etc) 30-60mg.........Diacetylmorphine (Heroin) (orally it = morphine) if used IV//insuffilated it's 2x as strong so if used in this manner this value is not correct) 100mg............Dihydrocodeine 30mg..............Hydrocodone (Vicodin, Lorcet, etc) 7.5mg.............
I also started to have crying jags and just feel OUT of it. I researched and found out about Suboxone/Subutex (Buprenorphine). I decided I could do the subutex (the nalaxone sp? Can cause gastric bypass folks some bad symptoms). I went into the GP with my plan. She did not seem keen to put me on subutex as she didn’t feel addiction was the worry. She put me on BuTrans patches 10mcg.
After that, they evaluate you and determine where you go from there with the buprenorphine (I think maintenance consists of taking a buprenorphine/naltrexone pill every day, but I'm not clear on that - perhaps my good friend Dan has a more accurate description). Anyway, I haven't by any means ruled out methadone maintenance as a solution for me. There are a lot of pluses compared to the minuses for this option.
The active ingredients in Suboxone and Subutex is the same (buprenorphine). Subutex is pure buprenorphine where Suboxone includes naloxone which deters using the Suboxone as an IV drug. It's inactive if taken sublingually as intended. The length of time you should be off the Norco, and the length of time you stay on it are solely you decision in agreement with your physician. It's also important to complement the Suboxone with therapy. It increases the chance of long term clean time.
The typical descent into opiate addiction starts usually at lower potency opiates/opioids like codeine, darvon,which is the weakest of all opiates where 100mgs of darvocet is equivalent to 650mgs of aspirin,its that low. Codeine is considered to be the second weakest opiate and is prescribed very frequently commonly in the form of Tylenol 3's.
Suboxone is a mixture of buprenorphine and naloxone. Buprenorphine is a powerful opiate, and naloxone is an opiate blocker used to resuscitate people in the ER from an opiate overdose. With no other opiates in the addict’s system in the last few days, he/she can either snort or intravenously shoot up Suboxone and become extremely high since it easily dissolves in water, making it easier to shoot up than heroin.
I would say that using suboxone for a mild codeine addiction would be the equivalent of pole vaulting over mouse droppings.
1mg of sub is the equivalent of 3 tramadol.....
Most of the literature and research done on sub seem to promote this miracle pill mentality. Buprenorphine is just another opioid, and no matter what excuses you can come up with or rationalizations, this is still drug replacement therapy just like methadone. Sub has been nicknamed methadone-lite or the lesser of two evils. It is addictive and a real biatch to get off, just be aware of these factors when making a decision." http://www.medhelp.
anyway subutex is actualy a strong opiate i read the ONE 8mg subutex is equal to 30 to 40mg of methodone...
Subutex The active ingredient in Subutex is Buprenorphine but unlike Suboxone it does not contain naloxone. Subutex is mainly used for treatment given under direct observation. Please refer to the manufacturer website for more details. When do we give Subutex? We usually reserve the use of Subutex for situations where patients will be under observation while they take the medication.Please refer to the manufacturer website for more details.
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