Armour thyroid vs nature throid

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On the conversion chart on the natur-throid site you would take the same as the <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>armour</span>. I wanted to know if anyone is taking the natur-<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>throid</span> instead of the <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>armour</span> and how they are doing on it? Thanks for any input.
Was taking a generic dessicated <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>thyroid</span>, now switching to <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>nature</span> <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>throid</span>. This generic was 65 mg per grain like nature throid, both have the same T4 and T3 amount per grain as old armour. The extra 5mg must be non-active fillers ect, means nothing really. For any of you that switched, did you take the same amount of grains per day if taken with water? I take 2.5 grains two days and 2 grains the other 5 day per week of the generic.
My daughter developed heart palps (PVC's) on Synthroid (diagnosed by a 20 day heart study with a holter moniter) She's been on original <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>nature</span>-<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>throid</span> (before reformulation) for 1 1/2 years now and no longer has them nor many other hypo. health issues that she had for years on Synthroid alone. Her freee t3 was very low while on Synthroid yet her t4 was very high when she began having the heart issue.
We have a ratio scale here in our Health Pages on the <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>armour</span> ratios - <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>vs</span>- synthetics you can read. Usually someone that takes a desiccated <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>thyroid</span> at 90 mg and is about to change to syntheic will look at a dosage of T4 Synthroid at .112mcg and then add Cytomel T3 with the Synthroid at about 10mcg. That is pretty close to the ratios you are use to with armour.
I have prescribed natural dessicated thyroid for your patient (<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>armour</span>, <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>nature</span>-<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>throid</span>) because it contains both T4 and T3 (40mcg and 9mcg respectively per 60mg). This assures sufficient T3 levels and thyroid effects in the body. Since NDT has more T3 than the human thyroid gland produces, the well- replaced patient’s FT4 will be below the middle of its range, and the FT3 will be high “normal” or slightly high before the next AM dose.
Some of you may recall I am having issues on old marked <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>nature</span> <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>throid</span>. Three months ago I felt hypo when I changed to <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>nature</span> <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>throid</span> 2.5 grains per day from a generic armour copy called TCL. Then I felt hyper, but no labs were taken at that time (mistake I know). So I lowered the dose to feel better. The problem is I keep lowering it and feel better now down to 1/4 grain this week! Something is way wrong. I get really hot when I try to increase it, I wonder if I'm alergic to it.
Are you on the original <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>nature</span>-<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>throid</span> or the new reformulated <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>nature</span>-<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>throid</span>? If it is scored down the middle (line for dividing) then it is the new formula. The t4 and t3 seem to be further apart in the ranges on the new formula for many, as was the case for people who were on the New armour compaired to the original armour.The binders and fillers in both of these brands of desiccated meds have been changed in similar ways it seems.
The grain formula is slightly higher than armour is, measuring out a 65mgs per grain - <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>vs</span> - 60mg with <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>armour</span>. Many , including me find that I need to take a tad more of <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>nature</span>-<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>throid</span> ( even though it is higher in mg's) I moved up to 4.0 grains. That - DOES NOT mean you will need what I take - It tastes like c*** , but it's doing it's job far better than the new armour was. It's all about YOU and YOUR thryoid!! Thyrolar is a synthetic for of a T3/T4 combo thyroid medication.
<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>armour</span> is easier to get - so try this first. <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>nature</span> <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>throid</span> is also a US product. Like above, make sure your levels are high enough. Think of ERFA as your last resort. It is the best for me, but I tried it last. If armour worked for me, I wouldnt have tried ERFA.
Personally - they have really hurt the superior preformance armour had for decades with the Old formula and many patients have left <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>armour</span> for another desiccated <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>thyroid</span> medication - <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>nature</span>-<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>throid</span>. I went to NT after a spiral downwards effect with the new formula myself. Actually, I feel the best ever since the switch. For me - them switching their methods - pushed me into finding an even better outcome for my condition.
Some have mentioned having success with asking their pharmacist for names of doctors that prescribe <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>armour</span> or <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>nature</span>-<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>throid</span>. It seems that doctors willing to prescribe a natural T4/T3 med are more open to treating a patient's symptoms rather than TSH level. When you have a good candidate call the office and say that you are looking for a good thyroid doctor and would like to ask a nurse a few questions.
The reformulated <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>armour</span> works better than reformulated <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>nature</span> <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>throid</span> and ERFA works better than both of those. I've switched to ERFA now and loving it.
3) Natural Dessicated (pig <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>thyroid</span>) is the last step to try. <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>armour</span> and <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>nature</span> <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>throid</span> brands were reformulated, they still work for some people and dont work for othere anymore. ERFA brand from Canada is like the origional armour. If you follow these steps, within time you will find someway to feel better. It takes a L o n g time when changing meds. I did all the above over a course of 1 1/2 years, now on ERFA.
the ultimate criterion for dose adjustment must always be the clinical response of the patient. I have prescribed natural dessicated <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>thyroid</span> for your patient (<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>armour</span>, <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>nature</span>-throid) because it contains both T4 and T3 (40mcg and 9mcg respectively per 60mg). This assures sufficient T3 levels and thyroid effects in the body.
Didn't you say that the ratio of <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>armour</span> to <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>nature</span>-<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>throid</span> was different? Don't you need higher doseage of <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>nature</span>-<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>throid</span> to match what you may have been taking for armour? I noticed with the increase in armour to 75mg that my arm muscles are sore as is my back. I desperately want to stay with nature-throid. Thanks for your help.
I found a new doctor, a family practice MD, highly recommended by my compounding pharmacist who is not afraid to deal with her conversion issues head on, and can think beyond the synthroid box! She has been on <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>armour</span> <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>thyroid</span> for 6 weeks now, and OH THE DIFFERENCE in her attitude, energy level, skin, hair, happiness, body temp., hunger, bloating,constipation, and her ability to function in the morning with a smile! The heart palps are still an issue, but don't seem to happen as often!
I'm confused by your saying that my TSH is perfect and then later saying it should be higher. <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>nature</span>-<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>throid</span> is just like <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>armour</span>; it's dessicated <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>vs</span>. synthetic. Natur-throid has an anti-allergen in it, and no corn starch, which armour uses as a sweetener. As for my labs, you're right, I'll have to get the ranges; I know that now. Thank you for your interest.
Should I continue the levothyroxine and wait to start <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>nature</span>-<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>throid</span> or start taking the <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>armour</span> now and transition to <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>nature</span>-<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>throid</span>? I am concerned that due to the different fillers in armour and nature-throid, that the transition may be harder than expected because of the difficulty with absorption of the new armour (if that’s what I was given). The armour I have is a white pill, with an “A” on it, enclosing a mortar and pestle. The letters “TE” are under the “A”.
The number one difference you'll find is that <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>armour</span>, <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>nature</span>-<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>throid</span>, and West-<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>throid</span> all have both T4 and T3 hormones in them. Whereas synthetic replacement has only T4. http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/armourthyroid.htm armour contains both T4 and T3. http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/liothyronine.htm Cytomel contains only T3. http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/synthroid.htm Synthroid contains only T4.
By natural thyroid supplements, are you talking about the desiccated type sold as non-prescription. If so, I would instead stick with <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>armour</span>, or its equivalent, <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>nature</span>-<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>throid</span>, or Wes-<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>throid</span>. A one grain tablet of armour is 60 mg, and it is roughly the equivalent of 75 mcg of a T4 med. The one grain tablet contains about 38 mcg of T4 and 9 mcg of T3. Since T3 is about 4 times as effective as T4, that is how you get to approx. 75 mcg of T4 meds.
Deb, this is copied from my post in Magies <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>nature</span> <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>throid</span> thread. Dropped <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>nature</span> <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>throid</span>, three days ago only and feel better already, hope it continues. Sleep, not wired, less muscle tightness, can breath. I think it was NT doing this to me. Doc wont just do a CT or MRI says if it was pituitary other signs would be there. So hope he is correct. I will see him Friday. On my super low labs, it appeared to make the FT4 and FT3 way more separated in their ranges compared to other natural brands.
The ultimate criterion for dose adjustment must always be the clinical response. I have prescribed natural dessicated <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>thyroid</span> for your patient (<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>armour</span> or <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>nature</span>-throid). These contain T4 and T3 (40mcg and 9mcg respectively per 60mg). They are more effective than T4 therapy for most patients.
I have prescribed natural dessicated <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>thyroid</span> for your patient (<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>armour</span>, <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>nature</span>-<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>throid</span>) because it contains both T4 and T3 (40mcg and 9mcg respectively per 60mg). This assures sufficient T3 levels and thyroid effects in the body. Since NDT has more T3 than the human thyroid gland produces, the well- replaced patient’s FT4 will be below the middle of its range, and the FT3 will be high “normal” or slightly high before the next AM dose.
I have prescribed natural dessicated <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>thyroid</span> for your patient (<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>armour</span>, <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>nature</span>-<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>throid</span>) because it contains both T4 and T3 (40mcg and 9mcg respectively per 60mg). This assures sufficient T3 levels and thyroid effects in the body.
I have prescribed natural dessicated <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>thyroid</span> for your patient (<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>armour</span>, <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>nature</span>-<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>throid</span>) because it contains both T4 and T3 (40mcg and 9mcg respectively per 60mg). This assures sufficient T3 levels and thyroid effects in the body. Since NDT has more T3 than the human thyroid gland produces, the well- replaced patient’s FT4 will be below the middle of its range, and the FT3 will be high “normal” or slightly high before the next AM dose.
the ultimate criterion for dose adjustment must always be the clinical response of the patient. I have prescribed natural dessicated <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>thyroid</span> for your patient (<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>armour</span>, <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>nature</span>-<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>throid</span>) because it contains both T4 and T3 (40mcg and 9mcg respectively per 60mg). This assures sufficient T3 levels and thyroid effects in the body.
I have prescribed natural dessicated <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>thyroid</span> for your patient (<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>armour</span> or <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>nature</span>-<span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>throid</span>). These contain T4 and T3 (40mcg and 9mcg respectively per 60mg). They are more effective than T4 therapy for most patients. Since they provide more T3 than the thyroid gland produces, the well-replaced patient’s free T4 will be around the middle of its range or lower, and the FT3 will be high-“normal” or slightly high before the AM dose.
OK can yall help me settle this debate in my mind. I will be starting <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>thyroid</span> soon. I have both <span style = 'background-color: #dae8f4'>nature</span>-throid 1/4 grain now AND Erfra 1/2 grain (which ill split in 1/2). Which should I try? Anyone try both?
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