Ammonia toxicity cirrhosis

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she has continued to take the Lactolose for the past two weeks but today her ammonia level is 150. I would like to find out how high ammonia level can go before it is considered toxic and will cause her to go into a coma? I am also wondering in end stage cirrhosis will the lactolose eventually be uneffective in bringing down the ammonia levels? My final question is what kind of life expectancy is there when the cirrohsis remains at that level?
I'm more inclined to suspect that these findings are more likely related to metabolic toxicity/ammonia due to cirrhosis rather than viral infection or liver fibrosis, especially since the article did not point to similar findings in the pre-cirrhotic patients with liver disease. Just my 2 cents.
My father, who had recently passed away in early June from liver cancer (he had cirrhosis and hepatitis too), endured pretty much all of the manifestations that Jim's son described... During his last days, my father was essentially absent to any physical activity. He was prone on his deathbed, mute, and deadlocked (like a vegetable). The only movements he made were swift and agonizing hand gestures (he would motion his hand over his crotch area when he leaked).
One of them is ammonia toxicity in the brain. Should this be the case, then namenda, a glutamate blocker, would be counterindicated, as ammonia in the brain inhibits neurotransmitter synthesis, including glutamate and GABA-all necessary for proper brain/neuronal function. Some of the common side effects include : confusion, dizziness, drowsiness, headache, insomnia, agitation, and/or hallucinations.
My husband has cirrhosis, ascites. Ammonia level was elevated. In hospital. On meds. Was 81, now 62. Confused and irritable. If meds help lower, dies confusion and irritability improve?
No food will "control cirrhosis". Cirrhosis is not caused by any food. It can be caused by many different things that injure the liver of a period of many decades. A virus, alcohol, a hereditary condition or something else. If that underlying cause can be removed, there is a chance (depending on how damaged the liver is) to stop and reverse the progression of disease. So the diagnosis of the cause of cirrhosis is needed to manage the illness.
I had high ammonia levels from cirrhosis. It does make your brian foggy. The thing is, its all so insidious, it happens slowly. So I didn't know how out of it I was until I started taking lactulose to reduce the ammonia. And then, surprise, I stopped taking naps, my brain was working better. Don't deny yourself the possibility of feeling better.
In terms of diet, I believe you should be avoiding as much salt as possible, and at least for the short term, reduce animal proteins to avoid complications of ammonia toxicity. Try to limit your protein intake to things like legumes and soy products; they are less likely to metabolize into ammonia in your gut. Protein is an important component of your diet though; be sure to confirm any info you gather here with your doctor.
It is interesting that your doctor called it transition to cirrhosis yet you need the laculose to keep down the ammonia. It does sound like you are at the beginning of a lot of research. Any plans for a biopsy since the last one had too small of a sample. The good news is it looks like you have wiped out the hep C with 24 weeks. You can't ask for better than that. I sure would want to pin a doctor down on prognosis and what you need to do to stay healthy.
In most cases, though, there is a loss of liver cell function, and an increased resistance to blood flow through the damaged liver tissue (a condition known as portal hypertension) leading to esophageal varices (enlarged, swollen veins at the lower end of the esophagus). Severe cirrhosis leads to ammonia toxicity, hepatic coma, gastrointestinal hemorrhage, and kidney failure. As liver cells are destroyed, they are systematicallyreplaced by scar tissue.
It may not be complete but I hope it helps-------A prebiotic is a substance that will selectively foster/enhance/give a growth advantage to those bacteria in the intestinal mix that do not produce ammonia amd other toxins, but rather live of the offered prebiotics - mostly undigestable carbohydrates- and produce actually substances, like certain fatty acids that nourish the intestinal epithelial cells/ improving the intactness/functionality of that critical layer..
Are you on lactulose for the encephalopathy?...there is also an antibiotic that is supposed to help with the buildup of ammonia. I guess what I should ask is, have you had your ammonia levels checked? I have a friend who does have epilepsy and did treatment and treated her epilepsy at the same time. If I were you I would try to do some searches on this subject. Have you treated before?
Patients with liver cirrhosis should receive 35–40kcal/kg per day[9] with a protein intake up to 1.6g/kg per day.[1,9] For those with compensated liver cirrhosis this goal can be achieved with a normal diet without any restrictions in carbohydrates, proteins or fat. In the case of uncompensated liver cirrhosis supplementary meals are often recommended and prescribed.
are not even discussed..... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you take lactulose prophylactically, then the ammonia producing bacteria will be kept at a low level and the lactulose dose to achieve this will be low, with no unpleasant degree of diarrhea. If a patient has already toxic CNS symptoms, the presribed dose of course will be high and diarrhea will be intense.
He also mentioned a study that I may be able to get into but I can't think about that right now. I'm not discouraged just annoyed. I know I have decompensated cirrhosis which complicates treatment. Thanks to everyone here. I honestly couldn't have kept any degree of sanity during tx if it weren't for all of you.
It is used in patients with cirrhosis/hepatic encephalopathy to limit the proliferation of ammonia forming gut organisms and increase the clearance of protein load in the gut.
Once I stopped tx they dropped by about 100 points and have since very slowly been coming back. After 1 year post tx still slightly lower than pre tx. I don`t have cirrhosis and my spleen is fine so it is the bone marrow production effecting my counts. It does not effect me in any way since all my counts are in normal range , just saying how individually different it can be.
He may have hepatitic encephalopathy (confusion and disorientation) if he does not take his medications that prevent the build up of ammonia in his body caused by liver disease which might make him even harder to care for and in need for constant supervision. With the problems he has he very well might find himself returning to the hospital often in the days ahead.
Anemia The primary toxicity of Ribavirin is hemolytic anemia, which was observed in approximately 13% of all Ribavirin/peginterferon alfa-2a- treated subjects in clinical trials. Anemia associated with Ribavirin occurs within 1 to 2 weeks of initiation of therapy. Because the initial drop in hemoglobin may be significant, it is advised that hemoglobin or hematocrit be obtained pretreatment and at week 2 and week 4 of therapy or more frequently if clinically indicated.
The liver enzymes are mildly elevated - and the liver ultrasound did not suggest cirrhosis. However, as you know, cirrhosis is a pathological diagnosis and only a biopsy would give a definitive answer. Blood tests looking for hepatitis can be done. Regarding the biopsy, it may be reasonable to repeat the liver enzymes serially, and if they continue to rise, then proceed with the biopsy.
When resistance occurs, it puts the patient at short-term risk of a hepatitis flare, which is particularly of concern in patients with advanced liver disease, and at long-term risk, the progression to cirrhosis and hepatocellular carcinoma, even if the patient currently has mild liver disease. Resistance also complicates therapy because changes in the regimen are required and there is cross-resistance among the various HBV antiviral drugs." 4.
thinking it could be due to toxicity being created from imuran. They are doing blood tests in the middle of Nov. He doesn't seem to be "overly" concerned, and that drives me crazy. My bilirubin was normal, and in the last 3 months has been creeping up. Anyway, anyone been battling autoimmune for a long time. Any helpful tips?? Any diet tips? My Dr. seems to think the meds are working just fine, I don't need to be overly concerned w/diet, etc. I diagree!
It has been tested in both humans and animals for toxicity.. I do know there is a patent for using it to clean blood donations of hepetitis and HIV and well as other virusus and bacteria. Another one for curing fungus nail infections . I'm not suggesting anything. You how ever are suggesting that I'm lying about being cured of Dengue within 24 hrs. So I'm not suggesting anyone do anything except investigate with an open mind to new possibilities, Why are you being so confrontational.
I can list off a number of people I know who can't do SOC either at the moment because treatment has failed them, or their cirrhosis is too far along or because they have kidney disease and are unable to do SOC. That's just a quick 1-2-3-4 and give me time, I can list more quite easily.
What is even worse than the thread Trish mentions is when newcomers with cirrhosis start a thread trying to decide whether to treat or not and they in response get a post like the above "treatment worse than disease, last option only", which could scare anyone from doing tx. I saw this happen recently, and to me it was totally irresponsible (if I dare to use that word again).
I have seen military doctors at Walter Reed in Md to private doctors in several different states I have lived in since being medically retired I have had every test imaginable ---- I have blood tests of all sorts all the time Even my liver levels are in normal range (even though I still have a viral load) They keep saying they can't do anything until they cure the Hep C to eliminate that My ammonia levels fluctuate (depending on diet and activity) One doc was shocked at how high it was ---- 6 mo
I had an ultrasound and they told me the liver looked great, I had a biopsy and they told me there was already cirrhosis. You need to get the liver biopsy to really give any direct details. They are able to tell what the disease is immediately too. They test the liver directly to see what is causing it to inflame. That is why your liver numbers are high. Though start with the lupus. I don't think you need any biopsy's for that. Just my thoughts, and I certainly am no expert! Good Luck..
I know my bilirubin is still sky high, I can just tell by my eyes, but they are running some extra tests to figure out if I am having some toxicity problems to the imuran. If that is the case, they will reduce it immediately. My other numbers were all normal last month, so lets Pray those at least stayed the same this time. No joint problems. But I do hear people talk about it. What is the GGT? I don't see that on any of my previous labs.
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